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#41 tjmurray

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 08:51 PM

Nope. Brilliant execution by Cam and the offense. Newton completely fooled The Jets' D on that screen and Williams burned them.

Like Kendrick pointed out, D-Will didn't warm up with the more touches he amassed. He appeared quite good right from the start of the game.


Forerunner, I respect you and Kendrick but that just isnt correct. I can't find the stats, but i believe he was averaging 2 or 3 yards a carry for most of that first half. He got better as the game went along. Just like the Seattle game. Very little shotgun handoffs. Either way, he is better and the team is better when one guy is featured. i mean that cant be debated. When #28 got the game to himself against Tampa he struggled. Whenever he comes back Rivera need to pick a guy and move forward. enough with this sharing carries nonsense.

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 09:51 PM

Forerunner, I respect you and Kendrick but that just isnt correct. I can't find the stats, but i believe he was averaging 2 or 3 yards a carry for most of that first half. He got better as the game went along. Just like the Seattle game. Very little shotgun handoffs. Either way, he is better and the team is better when one guy is featured. i mean that cant be debated. When #28 got the game to himself against Tampa he struggled. Whenever he comes back Rivera need to pick a guy and move forward. enough with this sharing carries nonsense.

 

While he was averaging much lower in the first half, you can't deny D-Will was on a mission to prove himself after his poor effort against The Saints. Williams was running harder than he was last week. I saw that right from the get-go. He was motivated. Granted, our O-Line is a big reason why our RBs are appearing substandard but I'm not ready to believe DeAngelo will crush New Orleans if he acquires 20+ carries. It's gonna take more than one game to convince me.

 

A running back committee works though. Changing the pace keeps opposing defenses on their heels. I blame Shula for some of the bone-headed moves. D-Will, for example, shouldn't be used to run the ball up the middle or in other power-running situations. That's what we got Tolbert and Stewart for (both are averaging 3.0+ yards per carry as opposed to Williams who is averaging 1.7). As great as Shula appears at times, he's not a mad scientist. He needs to give D-Will more opportunities on the outside.



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Posted 15 December 2013 - 09:54 PM

While he was averaging much lower in the first half, you can't deny D-Will was on a mission to prove himself after his poor effort against The Saints. Williams was running harder than he was last week. I saw that right from the get-go. He was motivated. Granted, our O-Line is a big reason why our RBs are appearing substandard but I'm not ready to believe DeAngelo will crush New Orleans if he acquires 20+ carries. It's gonna take more than one game to convince me.

A running back committee works though. Changing the pace keeps opposing defenses on their heels. I blame Shula for some of the bone-headed moves. D-Will, for example, shouldn't be used to run the ball up the middle or in other power-running situations. That's what we got Tolbert and Stewart for (both are averaging 3.0+ yards per carry as opposed to Williams who is averaging 1.7). As great as Shula appears at times, he's not a mad scientist. He needs to give D-Will more opportunities on the outside.


Poor effort against the Saints? Forerunner, what are you talking about? He ran well last week....

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 10:07 PM

Poor effort against the Saints? Forerunner, what are you talking about? He ran well last week....

 

D-Will only had 13 carries but he sure as hell wasn't a factor in the second half of that game. I remember him being stuffed at the line for a minimal gain on three carries and missing a few block assignments. Then again, the entire team appeared lethargic.



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Posted 15 December 2013 - 10:35 PM

Really....too little info on them playing together this year....you remember when they were double trouble.....stewart was finally getting his legs back and then of course another injury....that's the way its been for him...he's a great feature on our Off when he is available.....KEEP POUNDING!!!! 



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Posted 15 December 2013 - 11:37 PM

yet people want to get rid of him and put our chips all in barner.........no offesne to barner but i'd rather go with the Vet until he shows me otherwise

 

tbh the argument to get rid of either stew or d will is stupid imo, big cap hit in releasing stewart and big risk in not getting the same production by releasing d will, fans should be happy we have a rb who can carry the load if one goes down.



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 12:37 AM

yet people want to get rid of him and put our chips all in barner.........no offesne to barner but i'd rather go with the Vet until he shows me otherwise

tbh the argument to get rid of either stew or d will is stupid imo, big cap hit in releasing stewart and big risk in not getting the same production by releasing d will, fans should be happy we have a rb who can carry the load if one goes down.

Go with the vet??? But CRA said

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:14 AM

Stewart was the better, more gifted back of the two, when he first came out of college. If you thought DWill was better from day one, then you are an absolute idiot and your judgment of football players leaves much to be desired. (Which fits nicely with your avatar).

However, Stewart just got injured often and never could practice. That was his issue and still is.

I'm talking about day 1 of this season cocksmoker



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:16 AM

You're never right. It's quite fitting with your avatar.

nah i am right stew is trash this year as i said he would be lets end the conversation here he has had 1 good year in his career, just because he plays for the panthers doesn't mean he's raw.



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 10:32 AM

Go with the vet??? But CRA said

Oh noes!  CRA is such a hater....he predicted Williams going up against the top 2 rush defense wouldn't yield big results.  I was wrong.  It happens.  It was still an educated guess.

 

the week before I actually predicted him to have a big game  at NO by the way....

 

 




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