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Did you like the call going for 4th and 2

  1. Voted I liked the aggresive decision (130 votes [83.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 83.33%

  2. Bad idea, take the 3 points (26 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

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#16 Udogg

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:27 AM

That's the general argument....but I would counter that the Jets are much less likely to score two touchdowns, or a TD and two FGs.

 

The risk was not greater than the reward IMO.  The move could have really cost the Panthers but luckily we pulled out the W with a blocked punt and the INT score.

 

But would you have even made this post if it was successful?



#17 jamos14

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:27 AM

I thought you take the 3 against a team that has struggled to score.  

 

But......

 

I am not the Riverboat.  I won't argue his decision because he obviously knows his team much better than we do.  



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:28 AM

I liked it and think it was the right decision but the playcall didn't work out. Cam and Tolbert are a nightmare for any defense in a short yardage situation, even the Jets, really wasn't expecting pass there.

 

That said, if it had worked out everyone would be singing his praises and it would have been a hell of a dagger.



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:28 AM

I hated it. But much like Ron, I knew it wouldnt cost us, so it didnt mean much

#20 Cary Kollins

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:29 AM

But would you have even made this post if it was successful?

 

 

Probably so, because I think it's a bad move whether we converted or not. 



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:30 AM

It's always easy to rate a decision when you know the result.

Ron gave trust in his offense, this time, it didn't work out.



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:32 AM

was this the series where it was 1st and goal and they threw 4 straight passes and failed? not a single run attempt by cam or tolbert.



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:33 AM

I liked it at the time and I'm ok with it still. Not a big fan of the play call, though it would have likely been successful had Cam stepped up just a foot.



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:33 AM

Personally, I didn't like it.

 

It's much easier to get a TD and try for a FG to tie, vs. Get two TD's or a TD and two FG's to tie.

 

Cam was gimpy, and the middle of that D is very tough to run on.



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:37 AM

I was hoping for the FG. However there are too many people that want him to be riverboat Ron until it fails. The guy sitting behind me at the game wanted us to go for every 4th and short including this one. Sure enough after not getting it they drive down and score and he's telling his buddy how important it was that we just kick the FG. You can't have it both ways people

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:40 AM

was this the series where it was 1st and goal and they threw 4 straight passes and failed? not a single run attempt by cam or tolbert.


No.

But I think that series was the Olsen failed jump pass, Tolbert run that was destroyed and then the throw out the endzone. FG

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:40 AM

The momentum swing went strongly back to the Jets favor after that defensive stop and they drove the ball all the way down the field after that. It could have cost us the game.

 

HOWEVER.... you dance with the philosophy that brought you here. You can't take a 1-3 team that you turned into a 9-4 team and start playing it safe now that you're actually winning games. "Okay, I have done enough to probably save my job now I can start coaching the way I did for my first two seasons again". Nope. Be consistent.



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:41 AM

Also, it was no guarantee that we would have gotten a touchdown on that drive anyway.  Who's to say we don't stall out after converting the 4th down?

 

 



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:42 AM

absolutely hated playcall, but loved decision



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Posted 16 December 2013 - 11:42 AM

That play IMO is the real test of Riverboat. If you are going to gamble then you it is a certain fact you will eventually fail......and this was the first example of it legitimately blowing up on him.

The real test will be Riverboat continuing to be Riverboat going forward and not letting that impact him into leaning toward #OldRon the next time



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