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Pat Kirwin says we don't need to change that much to win this week

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I have no problem with posters saying whatever they want to say as long as they act civil. This is not about you disagreeing with me. As I have stated before it isn't that you disagree but the manner in which you call out posters by name and insult them. Then you follow that by asserting that you were the victim because I so annoyed you that I caused you to attack me. The kind of excuse I would expect to hear from my 14 year old son. Not an adult possessing a mature demeanor.

What's wrong with calling out madhatter for being a racist, if he makes racist comments? Are you going to keep posting anecdotes about your kids and make this discussion even more convoluted or are you finally going to shut up and cede that this thread didn't offer anything interesting since the OP basically went over a bunch of poo that has been posted over and over again on this forum?

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He hasn't really gotten into any of that.... IMO. He had a good draft (Hurney-like though) and did well in FA (unHurney-like)

The contract issues still exist. He didn't really get into any of that. Yeah, he gave Beason away for free to his buddies which big picture was good but that was all he touched really.

Gettlemen will prove himself as he sets to tackle Cam/Luke/Hardy/the fact no WRs outside an old 89 have deals going forward, and deals with the Hurney baggage of Williams, Stewart, Godfrey, Johnson, etc.

Gman hit on 3 picks, 1, Barner, is contributing, and 1 with more hope than playing time. Hurndog never got that level of success. Gotta give that whole drafting thingy to the Gman.

He also dealt with a poo ton of contracts, and did well enough to trim 20mil off the cap. All while upgrading several defensive positions. The only thing negative about this is the lack of offensive talent. Sure we could use some help on that side of the ball, but to withhold giving Gman credit solely based off that. Well...C'mon man.

Also, Gman dealt with almost every vet with any money left on his deal, and will probably do so again this year. He should have some money to play with this year. Based off what he has already done, IMO, there is no real need to worry that he won't continue to do a great job moving forward.

We finally have a football guy running things. And yet, you still want to worry he will somehow screw this up? Let the Hurney fear go, it is messing with your chi.

 

 

Did you just get out of the Looney Bin? Or did you fail to follow the Panthers' offseason moves at all? Gettleman restructured: Kalil, Gross, Williams, Beason, Nakamura, Olsen and most recently Charles Johnson. Gettlemagic freed up almost $20 mil.

 

The contract issues do still exist, but did you expect him to erase years of poor cap management in one measly offseason? He made some serious progress.

Yup.

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What's wrong with calling out madhatter for being a racist, if he makes racist comments? Are you going to keep posting anecdotes about your kids and make this discussion even more convoluted or are you finally going to shut up and cede that this thread didn't offer anything interesting since the OP basically went over a bunch of poo that has been posted over and over again on this forum?

This thread had plenty to offer until you came in here derailing it with your personal attacks and juvenile tactics.  You could have stated your opinion and moved on rather than going back and forth with increasingly negative comments looking for a fight.  Go home beat the dog and yell at some underling at work or whatever you do when you aren't here spewing your negative comments.   But this thread was fine until you showed up.  Like usual.

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What's wrong with calling out madhatter for being a racist, if he makes racist comments? Are you going to keep posting anecdotes about your kids and make this discussion even more convoluted or are you finally going to shut up and cede that this thread didn't offer anything interesting since the OP basically went over a bunch of poo that has been posted over and over again on this forum?

 

When you piss everyone off by the way you post (and you do), you might want to look in the mirror and accept the fact that you are just an asshole.

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This thread had plenty to offer until you came in here derailing it with your personal attacks and juvenile tactics. You could have stated your opinion and moved on rather than going back and forth with increasingly negative comments looking for a fight. Go home beat the dog and yell at some underling at work or whatever you do when you aren't here spewing your negative comments. But this thread was fine until you showed up. Like usual.

This thread was rated one star and it wasn't from me. And plus there was no original content. But that's beside the point. I'm not going to beat a dog or yell at one of my assistants because that's what you think I do.

So what do you think about noted forums racist madhatter? Do you value his opinion despite the bigoted commentary just because he doesn't argue with you personally?

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When you piss everyone off by the way you post (and you do), you might want to look in the mirror and accept the fact that you are just an asshole.

Of course I piss people off, silly. I do so when they say obviously ignorant things. You're a prejudiced buffoon and your posts reflect that so that's why I'm an asshole to you.

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This thread was rated one star and it wasn't from me. And plus there was no original content. But that's beside the point. I'm not going to beat a dog or yell at one of my assistants because that's what you think I do.

So what do you think about noted forums racist madhatter? Do you value his opinion despite the bigoted commentary just because he doesn't argue with you personally?

 I rated it that once you joined.  And you are beating a dead horse and trying to get in the last word so please do so. And as far as racism on this site I don't do it and don't support it.  Do I know Madhatter? Yes I have tailgated with him on numerous occasions and find him to be a very generous caring person who has done a lot for toys for tots and other charitable causes. I have never heard him make racist comments around me or other folks so honestly I don't find anything you say about him ringing true at all.  What do I know about you.  Only that unlike him you don't appear to be a very nice or positive person.  Maybe in person you are different but on the message board, not so much. 

 

Like usual you go down bunny trails and tangents to try and refocus the discussion away from your negative and critical demeanor which is the reason you get flack from me and others.

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Here go a couple of posts down and see for yourself

My point is that the outrage from you is over me and "my demeanor" which I guess you consider to be more offensive than this for some reason. Calling people stupid is not worse than what madhatter does, even if it's you I'm doing it to, but you judge people subjectively, so here we are trying to put the idea forth that I'm worse.

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Gman hit on 3 picks, 1, Barner, is contributing, and 1 with more hope than playing time. Hurndog never got that level of success. Gotta give that whole drafting thingy to the Gman.

He also dealt with a poo ton of contracts, and did well enough to trim 20mil off the cap. All while upgrading several defensive positions. The only thing negative about this is the lack of offensive talent. Sure we could use some help on that side of the ball, but to withhold giving Gman credit solely based off that. Well...C'mon man.

Also, Gman dealt with almost every vet with any money left on his deal, and will probably do so again this year. He should have some money to play with this year. Based off what he has already done, IMO, there is no real need to worry that he won't continue to do a great job moving forward.

We finally have a football guy running things. And yet, you still want to worry he will somehow screw this up? Let the Hurney fear go, it is messing with your chi.

 

 

Yup.

Unfair, to really even judge this class....Barner or Klien could become superstars and someone like Short could go all rogue and Otah-like.  Not suggesting I think that but you don't judge a draft class yet.

 

as for Hurn-dawg...he had his flaws but you are failing to give him credit.  2007 for example.

 

Beason - All Pro/Pro Bowler

Kalil, All Pro/Pro Bowler

Charles Johnson - Pro Bowler caliber

 

That was 3 homeruns in one draft.

 

 

Hurney had tons of flaws and I am glad he is now gone.  But too many try to totally discredit him when he did some good things.   DG is off to a good start....but while he did inherit a mess he also inherited some great players thanks to Hurney. 

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