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#1 carolina-chuck

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 11:36 PM

Are you guys really Chicago Bulls' fans?????

 

 

Ima make it short. Quit yapping about having "three" 1st rounders.

 

Make the Playoffs = Say bye bye to our 1st round pick.

 

That my brothers, will belong to the Bulls (top 10 protected). This is definitely not the year to hand this pick to Chicago.

 

 

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#2 wareagleflyboy

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 11:49 PM

I was never pulling for the Bobcats to lose.   When they lose I think, at least that's one more loss closer to a better pick.  However, I pull for the Bobcats to win 100% every game, and they are clearly no where near the worst team in the NBA.  

 

It's not worth pulling for a team to lose, or you wouldn't be a fan at all.



#3 Zaximus

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:16 AM

Best year to give Chicago the pick.  There is NO way the NBA would EVER give us a lottery pick over the likes of Chicago and some of those other teams anyway.



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:28 AM

I would have agreed with you before the season. We purged the team of its crap contracts and started over with the hope of finding a diamond in the draft. It didn't work. The joke that is the draft lottery left us with the number 2 pick and number 4 pick. That sucks.

 

The eastern conference sucks balls this year, I would rather win this year than pick 14 in this years draft.

 

Im actaully optimistic about our future. We seem to have a small handful of decent young players and Kemba is playing like he is going to be our star. (not superstar...theres a difference).

Im onboard with coach Clifford, so far we are fielding a good product. We play good D and have done enough on offense to put us in positions to win games.

Cho and Higgins have also done well with personal moves

 



#5 GamecockSmitty4

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 07:04 AM

I believe in the end, our pick will be in the 7-10 range and we'll keep it. Sessions may be traded and, as much as I don't like him, our offense is going to miss him a lot.

 

The way I look at it is, if we lose a ton, then what has the past 3 years been for? Obviously, we aren't doing anything right. However, by winning, it shows that Cho and co have been doing some good things. We have gone from being the worst team in the history of the NBA to our fans complaining that we are winning too much in a span of 2 years. To me, that shows progress and I am happy with how this team is shaping up.

 

Just sit back and enjoy the show. This is the best situation. When we win, enjoy it. When we lose, it doesn't matter.



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 07:41 AM

Winning games is fun, but I want to see this team compete for a championship.  Losing this year and getting one of those top guys was the best way to make it happen.  It is sad that it has to be that way, but it is the way it is.  While it is nice to see the team currently in a playoff slot, I cannot help but think that we are trading long term success for some short term wins over a historically bad conference.



#7 rg3and10

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 07:52 AM

The Bobcats have NEVER been winning.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 08:35 AM

Why do you have to take this to such an extreme? Nobody ever personally called you out for what you believe. Some people want to see us win, some people want to see us lose. wareagleflyboy said it best. There is no way in hell I'm going to root for my team to lose but yeah, a loss does get us closer to a better pick. That can be said for any sport. Anyone who wants to see the other team win just isn't committed to this team in my opinion.

 

Just because we think differently doesn't mean you need to call me or CP8789 out in multiple threads. It's just sports. People will disagree.. No need to take it this far.



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 08:57 AM

Wizards and Cavs keep tanking.  It will work out one of these decades.

 

At least they have franchise changing players like Irving and Wall though, right?



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 10:49 AM

Are you guys really Chicago Bulls' fans?????

 

 

Ima make it short. Quit yapping about having "three" 1st rounders.

 

Make the Playoffs = Say bye bye to our 1st round pick.

 

That my brothers, will belong to the Bulls (top 10 protected). This is definitely not the year to hand this pick to Chicago.

 

 

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TYVM. LOSING IS WHAT WE NEED. I DIDNT MIND AN EXCITING WIN THO



#11 ZB1224

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:13 PM

I could never openly root for any of my teams to lose, but if the Bobcats do lose a game it doesn't really upset me. What sucks is that imo we are 1 superstar wing player away from competing for a strong 3-4 seed and actually making noise in the playoffs, in my opinion. We are very good defensively (and I fully credit Coach Clifford for that), but we lack a consistent offensive weapon. Guys like Big Al, Kemba, and Henderson are really solid weapons to have, but either aren't consistent enough or don't have the talent to be a #1 option. I just imagine that this team would be nasty with an Andrew Wiggins or a Jabari Parker.



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:20 PM

Why do you have to take this to such an extreme? Nobody ever personally called you out for what you believe. Some people want to see us win, some people want to see us lose. wareagleflyboy said it best. There is no way in hell I'm going to root for my team to lose but yeah, a loss does get us closer to a better pick. That can be said for any sport. Anyone who wants to see the other team win just isn't committed to this team in my opinion.

 

Just because we think differently doesn't mean you need to call me or CP8789 out in multiple threads. It's just sports. People will disagree.. No need to take it this far.

 

I do not agree with this part.  If we were not committed to the team then would would not care either way what the team does.  We are both committed to the team and both want the team to be successful, we just have different opinions about what is best for the long term success of the franchise.

 

I think we have some pieces but are not close to being a contender.  I think that the best way to become a contender is to have a superstar.  This is a unique situation, one that would not occur in other sports, but due to the impact one star can have in basketball, and the talent in this year's draft class, it is a long term benefit for mediocre team to suck this season.  If I thought we could get our superstar in free agency then that would be different, but really, what superstar is going to come to Charlotte when they can go to a major market.  It is simply unrealistic.  Admitting that does not make use uncommitted.  I just means that we see more long term value in losing this season.

 

You are free to disagree, but that does not make us uncommitted.



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:55 PM

It's been said already on here, but really if your committed to the Bobcats being the best that they can be long term. Then you want them to be picking in the top 8 this year, which means loosing. You want the team to have as many picks as possible in this draft, but the important two are Charlotte's and Detroit's pick. This team desperately needs for both of those picks to hit so the team can have 2 top 10 picks in this draft. The Bobcat's pick needs to stay in Charlotte and it doesn't matter if it's pick 1 or pick 9, your going to get a major impact player that can have immediate success, that's how deep this class is. 

 

Imagine this lineup next year

 

Kemba/Harrison

Henderson/Taylor

MKG/Taylor/Glen Robinson III

Gordon/Zeller

Jefferson/Biz

 

 

 

 

 

That's not counting the 10-13 Million that Charlotte can use to bring in a FA. Easily a top 4 seed in the east next season, that's with the 6th pick, the 9th pick and a pick in the 20's. Losing one more season ins't going to hurt the bottom line, money wise with the Hornets coming back and having some big name players from the Draft on the team. There would be a ton of excitement for that team and it would drive ticket sales. It just makes sense to lose this season and is important to the future of this franchise, real fans that understand what it takes to win in the NBA consistently understand this and know it's just an unfortunate part of the state of the NBA. 



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 02:02 PM

For all you guys saying the Bobcats should lose so they can get a great player in the draft guess what:  they have been losing.  Forever.  They have lost games, players, fans everything.  And if they keep losing by the time they get whatever great player you guys think we are getting no one will be coming to the games for this team to make any money.  And the Charlotte Bobcats will be the Arkon Bobcats or Richmond or whatever city wants another NBA team.  Because without people buying tickets, they won't be here.  There is no guarantee that any of the player coming out of this draft will be great players.  But if the Bobcats, or Hornets by that time don't start selling tickets and making money, I can guarantee they won't be here anymore. 



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Posted 19 December 2013 - 02:56 PM

For all you guys saying the Bobcats should lose so they can get a great player in the draft guess what:  they have been losing.  Forever.  They have lost games, players, fans everything.  And if they keep losing by the time they get whatever great player you guys think we are getting no one will be coming to the games for this team to make any money.  And the Charlotte Bobcats will be the Arkon Bobcats or Richmond or whatever city wants another NBA team.  Because without people buying tickets, they won't be here.  There is no guarantee that any of the player coming out of this draft will be great players.  But if the Bobcats, or Hornets by that time don't start selling tickets and making money, I can guarantee they won't be here anymore. 

 

 

 

Chicken or the Egg comment, because the team isn't really that talented and needs a superstar to win consistently otherwise your struggling to get consistent scoring and 10 million isn't going to go a long way to solve the scoring problem this team has. Even this year they are a few games below .500 but are in the playoff hunt because of how weak the east is.

 

They've also not lost or gained a ton of fans if you compare the attendance numbers from season to season. 

 

 

What the cats are doing right now isn't winning, they have a loosing record which means they have a sub par product on the floor that needs improving. What's going on isn't winning and the team playing decent compared to previous seasons isn't putting buts in the seats because they aren't the hornets yet. lol No one cares right now. Just this past offseason, they sold a ton of season tickets deals for both this and next year and yet the arena still looks empty most nights. On top of that they are close to the bottom in league attendance at home. So winning clearly isn't helping. Do you know why? The reason is because of Charlotte's captivation with the Hornets nickname. Tons of people bought tickets for this season and next, but aren't showing up this season at all..... Why because the jersey doesn't say Hornets....because the colors aren't the god awful combination of purple and teal.

 

Why are the attendance numbers down from the last few seasons when the team made improvements to the roster and is winning? Why were more people showing up to the 7 win team's games then they are for the 12-14 team now? 

 

The economy wasn't better, it was worse then and people still made it to more games on a regular basis......  Obviously most of Charlotte doesn't care either way, it's obvious that winning and getting that name change announced weren't enough to spur the Hornets movement to come out and attend the actual games before the jersey's changed.

 

The reason is because most of the people that are going to be there next year aren't bobcat fans, they are Hornet fans that have no interest what so ever with what happens this season to the Bobcats. They don't care about the Bobcats because of Nicknames or color schemes or what have you. 

 

 

Just to show I wasn't talking out of my ass, here are the attendance numbers the last few seasons. Notice how this is the worst season attendance wise for the Bobcats in quite a long time if ever.... 

 

http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance

 

25th in the league even with all the hype of the name change and them winning more this year then they have in a while.

 

 

 

Now look at 2011 and 2012 before the name change was announced.

 

http://espn.go.com/n...nce/_/year/2011

http://espn.go.com/n...nce/_/year/2012

http://espn.go.com/n...nce/_/year/2013

 

 

Now that I've proven that winning isn't going to help this team until it turns into the Hornets, we can all agree that loosing doesn't hurt the team's money numbers, because people don't care.  We've proven that the people behind the name change effort even after getting what they wanted don't care enough to attend the games to help the team they'll be watching next year. So what's one more loosing season while the majority of Charlotte turns their cheek to the Bobcats before the name change if it helps the team immensely with their rebuild after becoming the Hornets..... What's one more loosing season if it means the Hornets have a young exciting nucleus that has a good chance of actually winning mean???? 

 

Great, glad we've gotten past that. The key to this teams future is getting all three picks in this draft and making the correct picks. Point blank simple. 

 

 

Anything else about the team needing to loose this season?




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