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Can we discuss Smitty's absense, and it's effect on our Offense?

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#61 Peppers90 NC

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 10:21 AM

smith is our best route runner and it isn't close.  he can get open on almost any one-on-one match up and that is key especially on third downs.



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 10:38 AM

smith is our best route runner and it isn't close.  he can get open on almost any one-on-one match up and that is key especially on third downs.

 

That is a good point.............Olsen is our alternative at best to substitute for Smith..............Smith can still be on the sidelines adding insight, inspiration and leadership  for the WRs and offense at least.



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 11:00 AM

 

Also, FYI, the whole Cam has accuracy issues is just as much a myth as the him having a second season slump last year. Every fugging QB mis-fires a ball or two. No one ever accuse Peyton, Brady, or Brees of having inaccuracy issues when they mis-fire or over throw a ball or 5, and they have been playing the game longer.

 

This is 100% true.  People harp about Cam but his accuracy issues are not nearly as bad as people make them out to be.  He's a young QB, he's developing, and he misfires sometimes.  so does everyone. 

 

Of all the young QBs, I would put Cam, Dalton, and Russel in the top three.  

 

I would, too.

 

Would you put any of those three in "elite" category with Manning, Brees, Brady, Rodgers already?  

 

I wouldn't - but I wouldn't expect them to be since they're all young QBs!

 

I think that is what Ajax was trying to get it, but I may be wrong.



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 11:03 AM

On the loss of Smith:

 

It'll hurt our offense, but we can win without him.  It'll help having a week with other WRs as #1 as far as how the offense will look, but we undeniably lose something without Smitty.  I disagree with this being "good" for Cam by forcing him to spread the ball around.  We're on track to have 4 receivers over 600 yards and 6 with at least 100 yards.  Cam is doing amazingly well spreading the ball around to the targets he has.

 

I personally feel that Ginn and Lafell are going to need to step up this week, especially Ginn, for us to have a chance.  Without Smitty, he's our real threat to stretch the field and I hope we find ways to do that against the young Atlanta secondary.



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 01:26 PM

Honestly, don't you have any integrity? Don't you feel an ounce of shame when you set out to create threads like these about your QB, especially when you know it's reeking with BS. Are you that desparate for attention?

 

Also, FYI, the whole Cam has accuracy issues is just as much a myth as the him having a second season slump last year. Every fugging QB mis-fires a ball or two. No one ever accuse Peyton, Brady, or Brees of having inaccuracy issues when they mis-fire or over throw a ball or 5, and they have been playing the game longer.

 

I seriously want to know why some of you are so quick to want to believe every false ish about this kid, even worst is you will join the A-holish behavior by creating your own myths about him. Does it seriously bother some of you to see a black QB playing so exceptionally well that you feel you need to control him by undermining him? 

 

BTW the same folks who are spewing the myth about Cam will turning around and worshipping the kid for his perfect throws and game plays. It's like we can't control this kid's talent, so we will make a big deal over every ish he does. That is how we will control him.

 

IMO, if you have to spend every game treating Cam like he's at the Combine where you feel you need to check every throw for perfect loft, zip and height, than that means there isn't a fugging thign wrong with him and the problem is YOU!

 

I wonder if the media push false story of Cam raping someone, how many of you will still believe he must have done something, even it was proven to be a false story? Some of you are so downright obvious. Just saying!!!

 

Step 1) Find a single poster with an opinion you don't like (doesn't have to be in the current thread)

Step 2) Create a post calling out a mysterious majority of "you" people with this opinion

Step 3) Make ad hominem attacks against nobody in particular

Step 4) Play the race card in strawman fashion

Step 5) Rape reference

 

Well done sir!



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 02:13 PM

 

 

 

This is 100% true.  People harp about Cam but his accuracy issues are not nearly as bad as people make them out to be.  He's a young QB, he's developing, and he misfires sometimes.  so does everyone. 

 

 

I would, too.

 

Would you put any of those three in "elite" category with Manning, Brees, Brady, Rodgers already?  

 

I wouldn't - but I wouldn't expect them to be since they're all young QBs!

 

I think that is what Ajax was trying to get it, but I may be wrong.

 

On the money



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 03:41 PM

I get tired of hearing Cam isn't on the level of the elites because he doesn't elevate the players around him.  Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees all had some pretty good help.  Each of them also had great defenses during the SB winning seasons.

 

Lets take a look at the 'help':

 

Manning:Welker,Wayne,Harrison,Clark, Edgerrin James, Stokely, Welker, Addai, defense, coaches

Brady:Troy Brown, Deion Branch, Moss, Welker, Givens,Gronk,Hernandez,Stallworth,Watson,Dillon,defense,cheating ass coaches

Rodgers:Jennings,Nelson, Finley,Cobb at the same damn time+defense

Brees-Graham, Colston,Sproles,Henderson,Moore,Bush,defense

 

Everyone of those Wr's could take over our#2 receiver spot.  Add the fact that they also had great defense each time they won the superbowl, and you see they don't do it alone.



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 03:44 PM

I get tired of hearing Cam isn't on the level of the elites because he doesn't elevate the players around him.  Manning, Brady, Rodgers, Brees all had some pretty good help.  Each of them also had great defenses during the SB winning seasons.

 

Lets take a look at the 'help':

 

Manning:Welker,Wayne,Harrison,Clark, Edgerrin James, Stokely, Welker, Addai, defense, coaches

Brady:Troy Brown, Deion Branch, Moss, Welker, Givens,Gronk,Hernandez,Stallworth,Watson,Dillon,defense,cheating ass coaches

Rodgers:Jennings,Nelson, Finley,Cobb at the same damn time+defense

Brees-Graham, Colston,Sproles,Henderson,Moore,Bush,defense

 

Everyone of those Wr's could take over our#2 receiver spot.  Add the fact that they also had great defense each time they won the superbowl, and you see they don't do it alone.

 

None of that is why I don't put Cam on their level.  Cam does elevate the play of players around him, no fuging doubt about that.

I just don't put him there yet because I don't think any player really can be elite after such a short time, I don't think Cam is as good as those players overall YET (this is not to say he never will be at all, I think he can be better than all of them, or at least more dynamic), though a superbowl this year may just change my mind. ;)



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Posted 24 December 2013 - 03:58 PM

None of that is why I don't put Cam on their level.  Cam does elevate the play of players around him, no fuging doubt about that.

I just don't put him there yet because I don't think any player really can be elite after such a short time, I don't think Cam is as good as those players overall YET (this is not to say he never will be at all, I think he can be better than all of them, or at least more dynamic), though a superbowl this year may just change my mind. ;)

Wasn't calling you out.  It was meant for all the people that act like those guys are gods and they take over the game by themselves.  The closest one that comes to that level is Manning when he changes the offense and that's about it. Put Brady, Rodgers, or Brees on a team like the Jags and lets see what happens. 





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