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#1 Zod

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:06 AM

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The offense scoring 14 points against the 27th ranked defense in the league who was also missing key defensive starters is an awfully bad omen.

 

Deangelo running for 3.3 yards per carry against the leagues 31st ranked rushing defense is pretty bad.

 

For a ground based methodical offense to lose the time of possession battle by nearly 10 minutes is scary.

 

If not for Cam's legs and ability to make clutch plays this offense would be absolutely horrendous.

 

Top issues with the offense in no particular order:

 

- Lafell's inconsistency

- Byron Bell (self explanatory)

- Lack of sharp, quick passing plays and hot routes.

 

 



#2 MadHatter

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:07 AM

The offense scoring 14 points against the 27th ranked defense in the league who was also missing key defensive starters is an awfully bad omen.

 

Deangelo running for 3.3 yards per carry against the leagues 31st ranked rushing defense is pretty bad.

 

For a ground based methodical offense to lose the time of possession battle by nearly 10 minutes is scary.

 

If not for Cam's legs and ability to make clutch plays this offense would be absolutely horrendous.

 

Top issues with the offense in no particular order:

 

- Lafell's inconsistency

- Byron Bell (self explanatory)

- Lack of sharp, quick passing plays and hot routes.

 

I know that you are not a Shula fan, but am interested in your perspective....

 

Do you think the bigger issue is playcalling or execution?



#3 Barry McCaulkinor

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:08 AM

Insert Mike Shula. Take a top 5 offense to bottom 5. We all knew it was going to happen at the beginning of the year.

People can argue execution all they want but the OC needs to be calling plays that puts the players in the best position to gain yards. He hasn't done that consistently.

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:09 AM

Let's hope 2 weeks of rest, film review, retrospective thinking/game planning, and of course being at home set's this team straight!?

 

Rivera/The Panthers, would have lost that game if the Falcons Center didn't fumble that snap. You gotta find a way to offensively close these games out (Smitty or no Smitty) Ron Ron. You got very ((really extremely) lucky. Don't go back to your old ways, and please cook up some good Playoff Gumbo (no Saints pun intended) for your playoff game 2 weeks from now. 

 

We'll see?



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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:09 AM

4-14 on throws to WR's for 22 yards yesterday. Simple and plain, that is the problem with our offense.



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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:10 AM

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Insert Mike Shula. Take a top 5 offense to bottom 5. We all knew it was going to happen at the beginning of the year.

 

We were scoring 30+ points a game mid season this year.  So, either you think that the playcalling has miraculously changed since then...unlikely.

 

Or, that the players are just not executing right now.....more likely.



#7 carpantherfan84

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:10 AM

I agree it is concerning. Maybe it is not all bad though. Because of our record and success every team we faced in latter part of the season had game planned specifically for us in a manner that only happens with teams like the Pats, Saints or Broncos. We got everybody's very best and still won. I think a lot should be said for that.

#8 chknwing

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:12 AM

atl was playing on emotion.  hard to combat that.



#9 Zod

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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:13 AM

I know that you are not a Shula fan, but am interested in your perspective....

 

Do you think the bigger issue is playcalling or execution?

 

I think it is pretty equal. Neither have been awful, neither have been good.

 

If I told you an NFL team was not calling plays particularly well and also not executing well either.... where might you assume they would be ranked? 25+?

 

You'd be right. The Panthers 26th ranked offense can't be attributed to only execution or coaching. Its both.



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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:14 AM

I think it's play calling 70% execution 30%.  When we were dominating TOP we were basically running a dink and dunk offense.  Now we look like the return of chud, ,more read-options than usual, and tons of down the field routes which haven't been hitting.

 

 

 

 



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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:16 AM

It is both...   the running I think is because the O line is getting beat.  They have no push and therefore the RBs have nowhere to go...

 

The biggest play calling issue imo is the lack of quick outs, screens, etc., to get the ball out of Cam's hands quickly.

 

Teams are forcing us to beat them with the passing game and it just isn't there.

 

Quick passes, work on the run and let Cam play is the only way we'll have offensive success in the playoffs.



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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:17 AM

I think it's play calling 70% execution 30%.  When we were dominating TOP we were basically running a dink and dunk offense.  Now we look like the return of chud, ,more read-options than usual, and tons of down the field routes which haven't been hitting.

Maybe, Shula will switch it up again, come the playoffs (or at least show a mixture)??

 

I don't understand though, why they don't throw more short throws and slant routes, to take pressure off the OL?



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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:18 AM

The biggest play calling issue imo is the lack of quick outs, screens, etc., to get the ball out of Cam's hands quickly.

 

 

This is absolutely obvious to us, so I am positive it is obvious to professional coaches.

 

So the question is, why is it not being addressed? Are they worried for Cam throwing quick picks? Are they less worried about Cam throwing the deep ball because, well, its almost like a punt anyways if intercepted.



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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:21 AM

This is absolutely obvious to us, so I am positive it is obvious to professional coaches.

 

So the question is, why is it not being addressed? Are they worried for Cam throwing quick picks? Are they less worried about Cam throwing the deep ball because, well, its almost like a punt anyways if intercepted.

 

I agree... everyone is talking about it... there's no way they have just missed this, so there's obviously some reason behind it...

 

We have executed some screen plays well in the last couple of games, but only a few...  idk why we don't do it more?

 

Maybe they're saving them up for the playoff run?



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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:22 AM

Nine in the box. It's what we've seen for weeks. We don't have the tools to deal with it, namely a consistent downfield threat. I've said it over and over, play-calling can't fix a roster deficiency.

 

Here's what I think we might see in the playoffs, though:

 

1) Brandon Williams comes out of hiding in more 2 TE sets, and becomes a vertical option across from Olsen.

 

2) A few more deep shots to Ginn, just trying to back the safeties off.

 

3) Some more spread formations, to stretch the defense and give Cam more running lanes if no one gets open.

 

And despite all of these "troubles" we're still winning and have a chance against anyone because of our defense. There's still cards up the sleeve, but teams have been stuffing the box since San Francisco, I don't know why this surprises anyone.




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