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#16 rko396


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 02:34 PM

So if i just start bashing P. Manning and say hes not quite pro bowl material, can I generate 1,000,000s if clicks to my website as well?

OMG!!!! Look at me!!!!! Im so controversial!!!!!!!!!

#17 Kuech the Sneak

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 02:37 PM

PFF isn't perfect, like the poster above said they don't know what a specific players assignment is on any given play so I don't know how they can judge them. I've seen former nfl offensive lineman talk about how flawed their rating system is

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 02:40 PM

Lord have mercy. I think my 9 year niece can be a better writer at PFF than those idiots.

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 02:44 PM

matthew stafford back up pro bowl. lmfao, yep, a guy who single handedly destroyed his teams chances of going to the playoffs is an all pro. im mad they charge people for their garbage, seems like a huge scam to me. 

#20 dpanther69


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 02:52 PM

Dansby is home like the huddle watching the playoffs. So he can have his PFF Probowl.

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 03:12 PM

So the 49er defense is good cause of a couple of probowlers and not the collective unit?

#22 Delhommey



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Posted 01 January 2014 - 03:18 PM

Luke has played at a Pro Bowl level, but I don't think it blasphemy to say someone like Dansby, who destroyed us btw, deserves a spot above Kuechly. There were a lot of ILB's that have insanely good years this year.

It's not like they're trashing him. They're just saying others are more deserving, which is reasonable seeing as this was a very good but not unbelievable year for 59.

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 03:33 PM


Sometimes these guys go full retard. Direct any questions to @PFF_Sam

Ask Dansby how was life in Miami Md then ask Sean Lee why he see more sideline than playing time with all his injuries evey time he play

#24 klumme


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 03:39 PM

All of those players had great years and Keek to.


What makes Keek so great is his brain, and that quality is hard to make statistic of.


What is important is... There is not a single ILB or MLB in the entire league I want over Keek. 

#25 tiger7_88


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 03:46 PM

Yahoo's Shutdown Corner blog put out their own All-Pro team.




Kalil and Kuechly.


Yeah, its just a blog by sportswriters, but what the heck.

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 03:47 PM

If Uncle Luke is not a Pro Bowler the game should be scrapped

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 04:06 PM

Football is the ultimate team sport and he's right to a degree, but how is that different than any other player? Also, look at the turnaround that happened the game Luke moved to the middle. To try to dismiss any direct correlation between those two is impossible. Luke is as deserving as anyone in the league.

If you want to take issue with something take on the OLB in 43 vs 34 because TD and Lavonte David not going is a catastrophe.

This all day!!!

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 04:35 PM

You cant get more productivity if theres no more to be had. In this scheme Luke has played as close to 100% as I have ever witnessed any player play a position. He's missed a couple of tackles and had passes converted on him but he literally played as close to perfect as I've ever seen. Its been incredible to watch. Same as TD. Its amazing to watch them play.


PFF's system is the one of the best for assessing things on a larger scale, but it falters when you use it to examine individuals. You can see where guys had great games and great seasons but you cant see if there was more that he couldve done in that game. I heard Dansby was a maniac this year so thats fine, but Id like to know two things


1 How did Dansby do covering Jimmy Graham, Gronk, and an equivalent of Vernon Davis?

2 Does pff pool their thoughts for an article like this or was this more of an one writers efforts?. . . because they definitely favor different teams and such.

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 04:38 PM

PFF is all about stats. All about stats. PFF is a computer.

#30 Ken


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 05:12 PM

PFF isn't gospel. It's still the best statistical reference site until another better one comes along. NFL personnel use it for a reason.


And some people clearly don't even know how their grading system works. lol


I don't agree with them that Luke is not a pro bowler but in no way does that invalidate their website.

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