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#31 Third Degree

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 12:35 AM

It's going to be hilarious reading what you all will be saying at this time next year, when that top prize from tanking is struggling only slightly less than Zeller is right now.



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 12:38 AM

It's going to be hilarious reading what you all will be saying at this time next year, when that top prize from tanking is struggling only slightly less than Zeller is right now.


Exactly
I remember hearing how great Shabazz muhammad would be. He was the next best thing to lebron. I realise we need talent but there are other ways of getting talent than just tanking every year until u get lebron or durant. Guess what folks, there isn't gonna be another lebron or durant

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 12:47 AM

Exactly
I remember hearing how great Shabazz muhammad would be. He was the next best thing to lebron. I realise we need talent but there are other ways of getting talent than just tanking every year until u get lebron or durant. Guess what folks, there isn't gonna be another lebron or durant

 

Uh...what? 

 

Welp, cancel basketball since it's peaked talent wise. Despite the same being said about x number of players for the past 60-70 years. 



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 12:49 AM

Here's one example of how Shabazz Muhammad was a can't-miss prospect.

 

 

If we get MKG and then get lucky enough to take Shabazz Muhammad next season, thats going to be one heck of a combo.



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 12:55 AM

Here's one example of how Shabazz Muhammad was a can't-miss prospect.

 

Because of the post of one guy? Let's ignore the sane people and GMs who dropped him in the ratings, and his college performance not backing up his high school ranking. Or all the drama outside of basketball involving him. 

 

I once predicted Lebron James would be good. There's one example of a can't-miss prospect. 



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 12:57 AM

Uh...what?

Welp, cancel basketball since it's peaked talent wise. Despite the same being said about x number of players for the past 60-70 years.


Hmmm listen if u think there will be another lebron then idk what to tell u. Lebron will end up being the greatest of all time in most minds. If not number one then 2nd behind Jordan. And durant is a seven footer who is so agile and can break u down and score all day. Nearly impossible to stop. He himself could end up being top 10 greatest players of all time, if not higher. So yeah if u think players of this magnitude will be cloned then be my guest.

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 01:01 AM

Here's one example of how Shabazz Muhammad was a can't-miss prospect.


It was pretty much is number one spot to lose. Everyone was crowning him the GOAT 2.0. Same thing with wiggins. Just hype. U gotta get lucky. Or we could construct a team the right way and make good draft picks and trades and free agent signings.

Or let's go with tanking from now to the end of time until we find the next GOAT.

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 01:04 AM

Hmmm listen if u think there will be another lebron then idk what to tell u. Lebron will end up being the greatest of all time in most minds. If not number one then 2nd behind Jordan. And durant is a seven footer who is so agile and can break u down and score all day. Nearly impossible to stop. He himself could end up being top 10 greatest players of all time, if not higher. So yeah if u think players of this magnitude will be cloned then be my guest.

 

 

Someone was always the greatest of all-time...or close. People thought there'd never be another Mikan. Then Wilt, Russell, Kareem, Shag, Hakeem, etc. all came along.

 

People laughed at the nobody will be better than Magic/Bird argument...then Jordan came along. Then there will never be another Jordan, and now LBJ and Durant are doing just fine, as you said, potentially being Top 10 players of all-time. 

 

The Hornets don't need to land the next LBJ, because as a player there may never be another one. Impact wise however? Yes, yes there will be more guys who are considered all-time greats, just as history has shown since basketball was a sport. 



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 01:11 AM

Someone was always the greatest of all-time...or close. People thought there'd never be another Mikan. Then Wilt, Russell, Kareem, Shag, Hakeem, etc. all came along.

People laughed at the nobody will be better than Magic/Bird argument...then Jordan came along. Then there will never be another Jordan, and now LBJ and Durant are doing just fine, as you said, potentially being Top 10 players of all-time.

The Hornets don't need to land the next LBJ, because as a player there may never be another one. Impact wise however? Yes, yes there will be more guys who are considered all-time greats, just as history has shown since basketball was a sport.


I agree. But I didn't say that there wouldn't be other players better or as good as them. I said there will never be another lebron or kevin durant. Those guys are unique as the other guys before them.

Are u willing to tank the next ten years (like we pretty much have been doing since the beginning of this franchise) to get a superstar. Them just to be the Cleveland cavaliers with kyrie. Or Washington with John wall or Kevin love with Minnesota. We keep on going the way we are and we won't have a team in 10 years. Being terrible every year in hoping to get a superstar.

And oh yeah even if we get Parker wiggins or whoever. What makes them stay after that rookie contract is up. They will jet to LA NY or whoever. In today's game u gotta build a team differently when your a small market.

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 01:16 AM

I agree. But I didn't say that there wouldn't be other players better or as good as them. I said there will never be another lebron or kevin durant. Those guys are unique as the other guys before them.

Are u willing to tank the next ten years (like we pretty much have been doing since the beginning of this franchise) to get a superstar. Them just to be the Cleveland cavaliers with kyrie. Or Washington with John wall or Kevin love with Minnesota. We keep on going the way we are and we won't have a team in 10 years. Being terrible every year in hoping to get a superstar.

And oh yeah even if we get Parker wiggins or whoever. What makes them stay after that rookie contract is up. They will jet to LA NY or whoever. In today's game u gotta build a team differently when your a small market.

 

Not at all do you have to keep tanking. You just listed 3 of the worst ran franchises in sports, who also haven't had to tank for 10 years, nor would Charlotte. They've been shitty for so long, because they can't draft. Not because they've landed a superstar who abandoned them. 

 

When you're a small market team, yes, you do build differently. You draft a superstar, and then fill it out. Stay a contender? And your guy may not leave. If he does? Then he always wanted to be in a larger market anyway and there's nothing you can do. It's the life of a small market franchise. I'll link something that I never got a reply to from Third Degree (since he seemingly didn't know what a small market even was) , post number 43 sums up how small market teams have to build. 

 

http://www.carolinah...cre-team/page-3




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