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The state of dis-ease is not natural, no. What's natural is balance and flow; both of which we are doing a very good job of dismantling.

 

 

pretty much what's "natural" is toil, struggle, and exploitation.  kinda the history of life on earth, don't you think?

 

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humans are natural.  we are "agents" of the natural world.  thus, everything we do is natural.

 

but being natural doesn't mean we should destroy everything.

 

however, the idea humans are unique in destroying environments is absolutely false.  plenty of organisms change their environments, either in very large or smaller ways.

 

beavers, anyone?  

 

I mean humans are an extreme.  but what makes us so fascinating is we are now reaching a point where we can look at what we're doing and say "wait - there are alternatives to this that can still allow us to survive."

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pretty much what's "natural" is toil, struggle, and exploitation.  kinda the history of life on earth, don't you think?


Agreed. But don't you think this type of behavior becomes unnatural as soon as we have the ability as a species to recognize its toxicity? Usually at these breaking points is where our evolution or demise steps in, as we choose it.
 

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however, the idea humans are unique in destroying environments is absolutely false.  plenty of organisms change their environments, either in very large or smaller ways.

 

beavers, anyone?  

 

I mean humans are an extreme.  but what makes us so fascinating is we are now reaching a point where we can look at what we're doing and say "wait - there are alternatives to this that can still allow us to survive."


The problem with our case is that we're doing everything to the EXTREME, which results in significant loss of balance and flow, thus states of dis-ease.
 

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Agreed. But don't you think this type of behavior becomes unnatural as soon as we have the ability as a species to recognize its toxicity? Usually at these breaking points is where our evolution or demise steps in, as we choose it.
 

 

Not unnatural, no.  I think it becomes unhealthy and in some ways inexcusable.

 

 

The problem with our case is that we're doing everything to the EXTREME, which results in significant loss of balance and flow, thus states of dis-ease.
 

 

I don't really think there is a natural state of balance at all.

 

Again, I don't think this excuses our behavior.  Quite the opposite, the fact that, imo, nature is chaos and struggle, to me says that since we are capable of being different and doing so may help prevent a lot of struggle and pain we have an obligation to be.  But meh.

 

 

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Not unnatural, no.  I think it becomes unhealthy and in some ways inexcusable.

 

 

 

I don't really think there is a natural state of balance at all.

 

Again, I don't think this excuses our behavior.  Quite the opposite, the fact that, imo, nature is chaos and struggle, to me says that since we are capable of being different and doing so may help prevent a lot of struggle and pain we have an obligation to be.  But meh.

 


I guess I tend to look at unhealthy and unnatural as being the same thing in a way. There will always be the natural balance of yin and yang, but once one starts to overpower the other, this balance gets lost and morphs into unnatural states. Just my opinion though.

 

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I guess I tend to look at unhealthy and unnatural as being the same thing in a way. There will always be the natural balance of ying and yang, but once one starts to overpower the other, this balance gets lost and morphs into unnatural states. Just my opinion though.

 

 

I guess my study in ecology, evolution, and natural history has lead me to the conclusion there is no balance to the "natural world" and it's all in a constant state of flux and struggle and that we basically see "natural flow" because we don't look closely enough at the processes underlying it all sometimes.  But that's also just my opinion. :)

 

but I think you and I are on the same page on this one, we just are using different terminology and see the place of humanity different.  Just was curious about your opinion on it.  Always good chatting with you on this stuff. :)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OixVPcCbcx0

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I am vaginaterian.

 

 

Is that when someone is a connoisseur of this jknFVUc.jpg?

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I once watched a pig get shot in the back of the head, dipped in boiling hot water, skinned and gutted and then get turned into delicious bbq later that night. 

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Thats terrible.

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Animals that are treated better taste better.

 

Therefore, I am in support of some measures. But, it's also ridiculous to expect people to pet every single cow and wait on them hand and foot before they're killed and turned into food. Wagyu beef if wagyu beef for a reason.

 

People abusing animals, or anything for that matter, suck. But, delicious animals are delicious and I'd love nice bloody ribeye with a side of bacon right about now. 

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If you could see me doing your girlfriend you'd do a better job.

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