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the birther movement making the latest go-round on social media

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mav1234    3,115

The Bush Nat'l Guard stuff was a bunch of forged documents that Dan Rather went with before getting them checked out.  Again, he saw his enemy and a weakness and went with it, just like birthers did, and apparently are still doing.  I did not say either was right, just that both judgements were clouded.  I was tongue in cheek on the BTW.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_documents_controversy

 

Ahh, thanks.

 

It appears Rather did apologize.  Still dumb he put it out there.

 

It is the media's job to expose stuff like this, but it sounds like this is a good example of what happens with journalists put personal feelings in front of fact checking.  Piss poor judgment. 

 

At least he apologized.  If half the assholes on networks that talked about that poo apologized I wouldn't be irritated as much, they goddamn they kept talking about it... even gave a forum to that crazy sheriff in Arizona.  Ugh.

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stirs    6,509

Yep, I hear people in my own extended family, "he wasn't even born here", but none of them know that much about current events, just stuff that is passed along that suits their bend.  The next question, if Huffpo fell in the forest, would CWG make a sound?  Just kidding.

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PhillyB    40,358

Remember Swiftboat Veterans for Truth or whatever that bullshit was?

 

my freshman-year poli sci college professor called me "patrol boat" in class because i kept bringing up "unfit for command" during class discussions of the impending 2004 election

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SmokinwithWilly    2,516

He shouldn't have needed to produce the birth certificate.  John McCain never did.  Why should obama have had to?  No previous president ever had to as far as I remember.  It's a bunch of bullshit.

 

Any candidate running should have to produce one. I have to produce various licenses and forms of ID for my job. Running for Pres should be a higher standard, not a lower one.

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Awesomeness!!    1,254

oddly the last time i remember the natural born citizen clause being a big deal before 2008 was when orrin hatch was trying to get it modified so ahnold could run for president

But Arnold is white (and more importantly not black) so its all gravy.

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mav1234    3,115

Any candidate running should have to produce one. I have to produce various licenses and forms of ID for my job. Running for Pres should be a higher standard, not a lower one.

 

So you've had to produce your birth certificate to prove you were born in the US for your job?

 

edit: I just think it's telling this hasn't been a serious issue until Obama ran for president..

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SmokinwithWilly    2,516

So you've had to produce your birth certificate to prove you were born in the US for your job?

 

edit: I just think it's telling this hasn't been a serious issue until Obama ran for president..

 

I've had to produce it to obtain certain specialized licenses. Not really a big deal to me. I think the only reason Obama has had the issue pushed is he wasn't raised in America. Personally, I think the DNC and RNC should both have this taken care of before they even nominate someone for President. Matter of fact, I hope they have at least done that much.

 

Before I hire an attorney, choose a surgeon, hire a contractor I inspect their credentials. I do some research. I like to know as much as I can before I put my fate so to speak in someone else's hands.

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GWBNostrils    335

I've had to produce it to obtain certain specialized licenses. Not really a big deal to me. I think the only reason Obama has had the issue pushed is he wasn't raised in America. Personally, I think the DNC and RNC should both have this taken care of before they even nominate someone for President. Matter of fact, I hope they have at least done that much.

 

Before I hire an attorney, choose a surgeon, hire a contractor I inspect their credentials. I do some research. I like to know as much as I can before I put my fate so to speak in someone else's hands.

Who did you vote for in 2008 and 2012 and what do you know about them? Where were they born, who raised them and how they raised them, any jail time, trips aboard and convictions?

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SmokinwithWilly    2,516

In 2008 I voted for McCain. Not so much a vote for McCain as a vote against Obama. After listening to several of his speeches, certain things he said just didn't set right with me. Sorry, I can't be more specific about 08. And in 12, voted against him again. I don't like his socialist stance and I despise the ACA. I don't think Romney was much better. I voted for the lesser of 2 evils as I saw it.

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cookinwithgas    7,385

Romney spent his influential post high school years in France, yet no one questioned whether he was a secret socialist or planned to introduce snails to US school lunchrooms.

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the constitution doesn't even define what a "natural born citizen" is

 

what we have is a series of rules governing birthright citizenship and depending on the interpretation of those rules and how they relate to eligibility of a person (scholars and historians are still debating this) it may not actually matter if a presidential candidate was born on mars so long as one of the parents was a US citizen.

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mav1234    3,115

Romney spent his influential post high school years in France, yet no one questioned whether he was a secret socialist or planned to introduce snails to US school lunchrooms.

 

Don't be so sure, he's basically the grandfather of the ACA, after all.

 

Damn socialist.

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