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#16 WOW!!

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 11:04 AM

Florio like most NFL media are hypocrites.

In one sentence they can say it's the ultimate TEAM sports but then give all the credit and blame to 1 player. When it comes to W - l record. How in the ultimate TEAM sports are wins and losses a individual stat?

Secondly they pick and choose who they give excuses and credit to. Way to much. Luck while being very talented gets a pass for throwing 7 int's in 2 games??
Matt Ryan is considered a franchised Qb way before he got paid. While Jake Delhome with a better Playoff record wasn't. Jake has a better Playoff record then Aaron Rodgers. Nobody shits on Rodgers for that. Brad Johnson has a better winning % then Dan Foust and Dan Marino. Who considers him a franchise QB? Archie Manning is viewed as being a good QB on a bad team. He get excuses for being surrounded by crap (like Marino) but players like McNabb, Trent Green, and Bulger get criticized for not winning it all. Even thoe they always had their team in the mix and have great winning %.

#17 Johnny Rockets

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 11:08 AM

Agreed. He always brings intelligent, well thought out responses and avoids conjecture. You might not agree with his opinion but he doesn't sugar coat stuff.

His definition of a FQB is just that, his opinion. I happen to think its a bullshit term anyway. Who really cares if Cam is a FQB or just the best QB we've ever had.

Yeah, the whole Franchise QB label is kind of BS, subjective, and pretty much irrelevant. When I hear the term "Franchise QB" only 3 names come to mind.  

 

Brady

P Manning

and maybe Aaron Rodgers.



#18 ickmule

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 11:14 AM

I figured it was some BS. Thanks for getting me up to speed on his sill comments. 



#19 TheRed

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 11:20 AM

Considering where this team would be without Cam Newton, it isn't even up for debate. He is our franchise.



#20 footballisasport

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 11:33 AM

Just said he is not yet a "franchise QB" in his opinion because he hasn't won yet in the playoffs. Said two things make a franchise QB, how much they are paid and how much they win in the post season.


Just remember, Florio was the person Peter King called up after his interview with Cam and he took the now famous and blown out of preportion quote, "Entertainter and Icon" and wrote a condescending piece on Cam that started the snowball of hate going.

As observed, 99.9% of those in the media who set out to keep Cam down are doing so because of who eigns their checks and not because they know or believe their own BS.

#21 Cracka McNasty

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 11:46 AM

Yeah, the whole Franchise QB label is kind of BS, subjective, and pretty much irrelevant. When I hear the term "Franchise QB" only 3 names come to mind.  

 

Brady

P Manning

and maybe Aaron Rodgers.

 

Don't forget Breesus. I'd put him up there no doubt. 



#22 Evengelion

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 11:51 AM

Just said he is not yet a "franchise QB" in his opinion because he hasn't won yet in the playoffs. Said two things make a franchise QB, how much they are paid and how much they win in the post season.

I'm guessing Luck is.



#23 Evengelion

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 12:12 PM

Football is a crazy sport where the most talented players aren't normally given their dues while the least talented(the QBs) players are awarded with them. That's why the masses feel more at ease with football more than basketball where you won't be seeing a guy like Birdman given the credit for Lebron's accomplishments. For me, I don't give give a poo how many yards or TDs Payton Manning throw for because his receivers have as many. If Cam's ability can be undermined so can all other QBs. But, unlike all other QBs, Cam's rushing yardages and TDs are all strictly his. Anyhow, those nonsense only matters if you listen to sports radios or read useless sports article. If you just follow the sport on Sundays & Mondays and then call it a day those opinions don't matter. Fact!

 

Fact is, Cam will get paid a $100 mil contract and will be playing for the panthers the next 5-6 years.



#24 KillerKat

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 12:20 PM

All that matters is that Gettleman has said Cam is a franchise QB

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 12:29 PM

Last I checked, the team's front office gets to decide who their franchise QB is or will be.

 

In the case of the Panthers, Mr. G said Cam is the franchise QB, therefore he is. Regardless of what Florio or any other dumbass may say.



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 12:32 PM

So is Andy dalton and Matt Ryan not franchise qb's either?

 

I would actually agree with that statement, and I can say so objectively.

 

I'd throw Tony Romo in there too.
 



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 12:55 PM

That's a really shortsighted way of defining a franchise QB (and that's a nice way to say it).

 

It's kind of like "MVP".  Is it the best player or the most valuable player?
 

 

Yeah, the whole Franchise QB label is kind of BS, subjective, and pretty much irrelevant. When I hear the term "Franchise QB" only 3 names come to mind.  

 

Brady

P Manning

and maybe Aaron Rodgers.

 

No Drew Brees?

 

Eli?  Flacco?  Cutler?

 

(not saying they are, just asking your thoughts)



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 01:28 PM

Just said he is not yet a "franchise QB" in his opinion because he hasn't won yet in the playoffs. Said two things make a franchise QB, how much they are paid and how much they win in the post season.

 

LOL, so when Cam does when a playoff game where will Florio move the goalposts? 



#29 BIGH2001

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 01:33 PM

Who cares what Mike Florio's made up definition of a franchise QB is.  The only person's opinions that matter are Gettleman and Richardson.  They've decided he's a franchise QB.  Go F yourself Florio.



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 01:38 PM

It's kind of like "MVP".  Is it the best player or the most valuable player?
 

 

 

No Drew Brees?

 

Eli?  Flacco?  Cutler?

 

(not saying they are, just asking your thoughts)

He didn't come to mind but as McNasty said...Brees would probably fall in with Aaron Rodgers for me. Eli, Flacco, Cutler I just don't consider franchise QB's but I surely can see why some people would think so.

 

Give me a QB that no matter what is going on around him, injuries, bad coaching, drama, etc....you just know that 90% of the time they will consistantly put their team on their back and carry that franchise  to the playoffs year after year.

 

P Manning and Tom Terrific will do just that.

 

Rodgers and Brees are capable of doing that.

 

Just my subjective high stadard view of a true franchise QB

 

 

and oh yeah.....Nick Foles also. :thumbsu:




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