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Here you go Zod: exact number of cam scrambles for first downs


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#25 panthers55

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 07:55 PM

Can't be. Shula is an excellent OC. Right?

That is such a nonsequitor.  Just because he scrambled 16 times for first down out of a total of 20 per game or over 300 first downs hardly means anything about Shula. And just because he scrambled for a first down didn't mean he scored any points.  The reality is that he ran for 6 TDs and some of those were scripted by Shula and some were Newton innovating.

 

Sure Cam was a big part of the offense but to say that those scrambles proves anything about Shula stretches the bounds of of any kind of reality.  I know you want to discredit him but that argument wouldn't hold water in an elementary school debate.



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 08:14 PM

"If our QB wasn't so good our offense wouldn't be as good. See guys!!!"

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 08:19 PM

Not going to post a 100 screen shots but heres some neat info.

I used a 50% of teams overall snaps qualifier so there was 26 total qbs listed.

his 3.09 seconds was the third most "time to throw" defined as "the point until he attempts a throw, is sacked or scrambles past the line of scrimmage" (could be an inflated by his dancing in the pocket)

the 2.73 seconds it takes for him to attempt a pass is the 6th longest time.

the 4,63 seconds before he is sacked is the 2nd most time (granted he buys more time by dancing in the pocket and hard to decipher how much of that dancing is distracting him from finding an open target)

at 5.94 seconds Cam holds on the ball longer than anyone before deciding to scramble (except peyton who just doesent scramble past the line at all lol)

Two guys in the NFL that I have no problem with them holding the ball too long is Cam and Big Ben

It does result in sacks but also results in big plays that keep drives alive. It is give and take with guys like that.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 08:53 PM

It's the Barry Sanders effect, he has the most negative yards ever.  Cam can make plays, and besides, it's not like receivers are wide open and he's just neglecting to get rid of the ball. 



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:20 PM

That is such a nonsequitor. Just because he scrambled 16 times for first down out of a total of 20 per game or over 300 first downs hardly means anything about Shula. And just because he scrambled for a first down didn't mean he scored any points. The reality is that he ran for 6 TDs and some of those were scripted by Shula and some were Newton innovating.

Sure Cam was a big part of the offense but to say that those scrambles proves anything about Shula stretches the bounds of of any kind of reality. I know you want to discredit him but that argument wouldn't hold water in an elementary school debate.


And yet you still tried to refute it... Poorly.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:35 PM

Now if the Panthers can get those who get paid to run the ball to do the same and fans to demand Cam play the role of a QB more and not an RB or FB, then this team would be  a force to reckoned with.



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:47 PM

Who Is this guy and how long did he spend in front of a TV for these stats lol

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:50 PM

 

Is it a coincidence that mobile QBs top the list?



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:50 PM

I told posters Cam has made Shula

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 10:01 PM

I thought our running game was decent throughout the year.  Without the threat of WRs that can get open, opposing defenses just focus on stopping our RBs.  We desperately need some balance to open the running game up.  JStew and DWill aren't going anywhere next season so we gotta spread the D.



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Posted 15 January 2014 - 10:15 PM

I told posters Cam has made Shula

Quarterbacks make or break OCs as well as head coaches. That is hardly news.  What team has a crappy quarterback statistically and yet put up big numbers on offense this year??



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Posted 16 January 2014 - 02:17 AM

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