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Joe Staley said he prepared for Hardy more than any other DE he has faced in his career. You can whine about Hardy not showing up but thats respect. And not many other OTs will keep him in check like that.

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we can try and minimalize the potential impact that hardy has on the defense, but the truth is he is a big part of the success that we have had.

 

he is a beast. sure, he's a bit touched in the head and has a big mouth, but he's as good as advertised. he's worth every bit of money he can get on the market.

 

my little bit of hope is that he can understand the impact that "what he's due" can have on the team and that he feels he can be himself here. he's been given a lot of leash that other teams might not give him. the grass isn't always greener on the other side. that new team might not be contenders, either. they might not have someone on the other side of the line who can draw attention away from him. they might not have a beastly DL. they might be years away from any chance at the playoffs. their fanbase might not appreciate him. his new team might hate him. there's just a lot of things that could go wrong...but hey, he'd have an extra mil or two a year for 5 years and that fixes everything, right?

 

my little bit of hope is that he knows what carolina needs to do to reach the superbowl...and that they are working with limited resources. if he plays hardball, they might not be able to keep him or if they did they would be sacrificing other key areas needed to punch the rest of the league back in the face.

 

some place might have more money for him, but i seriously doubt that any place would be as perfect a fit for him as here or that any potential landing spots would have as bright a future as here. he's got to know that he's appreciated here by the fans and by the team as well. i just hope that it matters when it comes down to decision time and that it weighs a lot in the decision.

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Here are some interesting observations that may help one deal with the loss of Hardy:
1. CJ, Star, KK/Dwan, Luke and Davis drew a lot of attention.
2. We faced a lot of teams with LT issues this year, and Hardy often had multiple sacks vs. those teams.
3. Many of Hardy's sacks were "motor" sacks. He found the QB after being forced to navigate around in the pocket. There were a few where he was not the first player to reach the QB.
4. Do you consider Hardy an "elite" player, or did he have a tremendous season due to the pieces around him? I think Hardy is a good player, a very good player--I loved the pick when he was drafted---but there is a lot of risk involved in paying him top dollar.

However, his agent will base his asking price on a few other observations: 15 sacks, 3rd in the league. Pro Bowler. There is a premium on getting to the QB in the NFL. Hardy is going to get paid. We may be 20+ million under the cap, but seriously, we are not using over half of that on one player. I am guessing that we could do the following on what Hardy alone would require:

Re-sign Gross. I am guessing he will return for $2.5 m. or so. I am not good at guessing contracts.
Re-sign Mitchell. The speed, the leadership, the hitting, the swagger. Our defensive backfield needed it. Don't forget he was learning FS. He will only get better. I am thinking about $2.5 million per year.
Re-sign Wharton. He played well, and this could lead to a competition between Wharton, Kugbila, and SIlatolu for the 2 spots.. $1.5 million
Re-sign Ted Ginn. As important as he was to us, his statistics make him affordable, He would be a great KR, 3/4th WR. I am guessing $2 million.
Re-sign Captain Munnerlyn. Ideally, I would like to get better at CB, sending Capt. to the nickel role. He was the best CB on the second-ranked D in the NFL. He may want to shop himself again, but I think he accepts a $2.5 million per season deal.

Or we could re-sign Hardy to a $12 m per year deal.




Without question we do the resigns rather than giving Hardy 12M. We are getting ready to see what Hardy thinks a "discount" really is.
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I can only wish that Hardy stays here regardless of getting paid. I understand wanting to be paid appropriately and he deserves it but he has to know this team is strapped at the moment.

I would not blame him in the least bit for leaving, he could get hurt and never get that big check, or he can stay for less knowing what can happen. I can only hope he understands he is on a good team that has the potential to be a great team for many years and eventually he will have his payday.

Pipe dream I know but that's what fans are for, right?

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Decker could leave for a team with a good young QB since Manning is approaching the end of his career  

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And that's how you become a Krak-head.

Someone told me if I said his name in a mirror three times, The Kraken would appear and rip me apart.

I tried it so I could prove the whole idea is just ridicu-HOLY SHI-AAAAAHHH... :blink:

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Someone told me if I said his name in a mirror three times, The Kraken would appear and rip me apart.

I tried it so I could prove the whole idea is just ridicu-HOLY SHI-AAAAAHHH... :blink:

 

It's only partially true, it's if you say his name 3 times while staring at a bowl of cereal.  If you do, he will come out of the bowl and dominate anything in a 100 yard radius.

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Those that say nicks would be expensive.. I dont get it. Hes had an awful season and we could get him for really cheap.. Peanuts. And have yall forgotten what he has been like when healthy?

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Im really sorry. Should I lied about it and blame it on the iphone (typo)?



Hey man, no need for you to be apologizing.

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If I'm correct, right now we have around 15 mil in cap space.

By making Dwill and Godfrey "June 1" cuts, that would free another additional 5-6 mil bumping us to 21mil. Some guys will be retained, but hopefully others will too restructure their contracts: Stewart, CJ, Olsen, Smitty, Kalil, and TD.

We should be able to make at least 1 or 2 bold moves, but Im not a fan of Eric Decker. I just dont see Decker having that kind of impact he is having in Denver here in Carolina. I'd rather go Nicks or probably a cheaper mover "Golden Tate".


Um, releasing Godfrey would free is up 5.1 immediately, not as a June 1st cut. Cutting DWill at any point would cause about 4-6 million to go against our cap immediately.
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Hardy is gonna get 50 million from some team, not us.

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The one positive feeling I have about the whole Hardy contract situation is that we can be a better overall team next year regardless of whether he stays or goes. If he stays, the defensive backfield and offensive line/wr situation will be better and we'll be a better offense and defense. If he goes, (which would make me very sad) the above still applies. We're not a better defense, but the offense is still much better.

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