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#166 micnificent28

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:11 PM

a. he does not have one of the highest drop rates in this class, matter of fact he has one of the lowest at 4.49%. coming in 3rd in this class after Landry, and Evans.

 

b. you cannot knock him for the scheme he was in. Dabo wanted the ball in his hands asap, and they run a lot of screens, jet runs etc..... his scheme thrives off quick hitters. but lets not act as though that is all he ran. I have seen him run plenty of routes on all levels of the field. he caught 32% of his balls on post and corner routes. he also caught 34% of his balls on comeback routes.

 

How Are Their Hands?

 

Here are the drop rates for each of the WRs. I defined drops as balls that were easy receptions and likely bounced off the hands of a WR, not passes that a WR ‘could have caught’ with an acrobatic play.

 

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- There’s not a whole lot of bad to see in this group. Anything below 6 or 7% is just about normal for NCAA wide receivers.

 

- The biggest player to watch out for here is Jordan Matthews who has a slightly above-average drop rate of 7.69%. There were a few 50/50 drops that I hedged on Matthews’ side for. He could realistically be anywhere between 7-11%. If you’re watching Matthews intently, keep an eye on his hands.

 

look again. His hands are not that good.



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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:44 PM

Watkins is not the best WR in the draft....



Did you watch college football or one team?

Denadre Hopkins is twice the WR watkins is.. do you see him running amazing routes? Do you see him jumping up and fighting for balls? Or do you see him catch curls/screens/trick plays so he can run around?


i have seen him run some amazing routes(post corners, double moves, verticals, drags, digs, post), and i have seen him high point balls this year. he is by far the best WR prospect in the draft this year, but every one has their own opinion.



How Are Their Hands?


Here are the drop rates for each of the WRs. I defined drops as balls that were easy receptions and likely bounced off the hands of a WR, not passes that a WR ‘could have caught’ with an acrobatic play.


teHMW5o.jpg

- There’s not a whole lot of bad to see in this group. Anything below 6 or 7% is just about normal for NCAA wide receivers.


- The biggest player to watch out for here is Jordan Matthews who has a slightly above-average drop rate of 7.69%. There were a few 50/50 drops that I hedged on Matthews’ side for. He could realistically be anywhere between 7-11%. If you’re watching Matthews intently, keep an eye on his hands.


look again. His hands are not that good.

my response was for general_purr and him stating Watkins is not the best WR. i know this is a Matthews thread in all, but i wasnt talking about him in the above quote. im no Matthews fan either. The numbers I posted in the other post were Watkins numbers.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:49 PM

What the fug Landry, that's insane.



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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:54 PM

What the fug Landry, that's insane.

It is, the guy said he saw him drop 2 balls that he should have had all year.

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 06:33 PM

my response was for general_purr and him stating Watkins is not the best WR. i know this is a Matthews thread in all, but i wasnt talking about him in the above quote. im no Matthews fan either. The numbers I posted in the other post were Watkins numbers.

 

Well we agree watkins is the best wr in the draft. This guy matthews is a second rounder in my eyes.



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Posted 30 January 2014 - 07:35 PM

http://www.rotoworld.../cfb/46136/349/

- Jordan Matthews is in a similar YAC predicament as Robinson. His overall YAC of 7.8 would put him second in this class only behind Sammy Watkins. However, his screens up this number significantly. On the 55% of his receptions that aren’t screens, he averages 4.7 YPC – a number that is slightly below average.




Please do your research.




Wasn't talking about the screens, chum, which is no doubt the reason that was the point you ran to

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 08:30 PM

Wasn't talking about the screens, chum, which is no doubt the reason that was the point you ran to

I was just proving my point. his high drop rate and he catches a lot of screens. Which u said i made up so now what?



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 10:46 AM

I was just proving my point. his high drop rate and he catches a lot of screens. Which u said i made up so now what?


lol and now you're backtracking on what you actually said in regards to the drops.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:10 PM

After listening to Gettlemen's interview thus morning where he said he was very high on NcNutt and King that the OLine needed fixing, I think most here drooling over a first round WR will be disappointed.

I still expect OL in the first.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:14 PM

After listening to Gettlemen's interview thus morning where he said he was very high on NcNutt and King that the OLine needed fixing, I think most here drooling over a first round WR will be disappointed.

I still expect OL in the first.

 

 

 

agreed, adding TE for anyone who doesn't consider that position part of the OL.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:20 PM

agreed, adding TE for anyone who doesn't consider that position part of the OL.

 

Gettlemen was very specific about a "blocking TE" and that Hartsock's knee was not the same and that he was not getting any younger.  I still think it is more likely that we target a blocking TE than one of the tope pass catching TE's in the draft.

 

Hope we can find one that has both.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:41 PM

Gettlemen was very specific about a "blocking TE" and that Hartsock's knee was not the same and that he was not getting any younger.  I still think it is more likely that we target a blocking TE than one of the tope pass catching TE's in the draft.

 

Hope we can find one that has both.

 

 

 

not sure we'll have a good value in the first...perhaps a third or fourth rounder who is a better blocker.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:54 PM

Gettlemen was very specific about a "blocking TE" and that Hartsock's knee was not the same and that he was not getting any younger. I still think it is more likely that we target a blocking TE than one of the tope pass catching TE's in the draft.

Hope we can find one that has both.


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