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#1 CatfanMO

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 10:05 AM

When the rush is coming from the ends, you gotta step up in the pocket. How many sacks could have been avoided if this was the case? I noticed this in the probowl on 2 or 3 of the sacks also. His first instinct is to stand up straight and try to juke/break the defenders tackle. The tackles are trained if they get beat to push them past the QB. When they do this for cam, they normally run right in to him. I really think if his pocket presence comes around, Cam can be unstoppable.



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 10:07 AM

Agreed.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 10:11 AM

Agreed, granted I think that was Cam just trying to do to much in a meaningless game

 

point taken none the less



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 10:14 AM

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This is actually something that you are going to have to live with when you have a mobile QB.  Newton has the ability to beat the rush with his legs.  So, somethimes he is going to feel the pressure and then try to roll out of the pocket.  Somethimes this will work.....and sometimes he will roll right into the pressure.

 

A mobile QB is a challenge for an OL.  Yes, he may avoid some sacks.  But the OL knows where a pocket passer is likely to be.  They do not have this luxury with a mobile, scrambling QB.  The OT may correctly push his defender to the outside and up the field like he is supposed to....only to have the QB roll into that pressure.

 

However, given Cam's natural athletic ability.....I will this as his scrambling and running trumps it.



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 10:17 AM

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I am more concerned with cams feet placement when throwing.



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 10:22 AM

Setting his feet is a must

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 10:25 AM

This is actually something that you are going to have to live with when you have a mobile QB. Newton has the ability to beat the rush with his legs. So, somethimes he is going to feel the pressure and then try to roll out of the pocket. Somethimes this will work.....and sometimes he will roll right into the pressure.

A mobile QB is a challenge for an OL. Yes, he may avoid some sacks. But the OL knows where a pocket passer is likely to be. They do not have this luxury with a mobile, scrambling QB. The OT may correctly push his defender to the outside and up the field like he is supposed to....only to have the QB roll into that pressure.

However, given Cam's natural athletic ability.....I will this as his scrambling and running trumps it.


I remember Cam saying that being a playmaker is both a blessing and a curse, which I think is one of the most spot on things he's said to date.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 10:55 AM

Wait...Didn't just about every QB in the pro bowl this year got sacked at least sacked once of twice. This was a defensive battle. But I agree Cam needs to work on his footing. Plus get rid of Dorsey as the QB coach. But overall if we get Cam an oline that can protect him and get a WR like Jackson that he can throw to. Cam will be fine. That's why we need to invest our first round pick in this year draft on a tall WR who can run good route and that has a good hands and has some speed. If we can get a guy with skills. Then Cam is set for years to come.



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 10:58 AM

He just needs to learn to shift his weight when he throws the ball and stop trying to hum every throw with his arm motion alone.



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 10:59 AM

This is actually something that you are going to have to live with when you have a mobile QB.  Newton has the ability to beat the rush with his legs.  So, somethimes he is going to feel the pressure and then try to roll out of the pocket.  Somethimes this will work.....and sometimes he will roll right into the pressure.

 

A mobile QB is a challenge for an OL.  Yes, he may avoid some sacks.  But the OL knows where a pocket passer is likely to be.  They do not have this luxury with a mobile, scrambling QB.  The OT may correctly push his defender to the outside and up the field like he is supposed to....only to have the QB roll into that pressure.

 

However, given Cam's natural athletic ability.....I will this as his scrambling and running trumps it.

 

spot on. people get so pissed when he takes the sack but forget the 72 yard td run he had because he was able to scramble. gotta take the good with the bad. part of who Cam is as a QB

 

I remember Cam saying that being a playmaker is both a blessing and a curse, which I think is one of the most spot on things he's said to date.

 

yup he knows it.  he's made quite i few plays stepping up into the pocket tho specifically this one.

 



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 11:07 AM

When the rush is coming from the ends, you gotta step up in the pocket. How many sacks could have been avoided if this was the case? I noticed this in the probowl on 2 or 3 of the sacks also. His first instinct is to stand up straight and try to juke/break the defenders tackle. The tackles are trained if they get beat to push them past the QB. When they do this for cam, they normally run right in to him. I really think if his pocket presence comes around, Cam can be unstoppable.

on the flip side, how many 3rd down conversions wouldn't have been conversions had cam not jukes out defenders and ran?



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 11:09 AM

This is actually something that you are going to have to live with when you have a mobile QB.  Newton has the ability to beat the rush with his legs.  So, somethimes he is going to feel the pressure and then try to roll out of the pocket.  Somethimes this will work.....and sometimes he will roll right into the pressure.

 

A mobile QB is a challenge for an OL.  Yes, he may avoid some sacks.  But the OL knows where a pocket passer is likely to be.  They do not have this luxury with a mobile, scrambling QB.  The OT may correctly push his defender to the outside and up the field like he is supposed to....only to have the QB roll into that pressure.

 

However, given Cam's natural athletic ability.....I will this as his scrambling and running trumps it.

 

Agree... although there are times when climbing the pocket puts a mobile QB in an even better position to break contain once the pass rush has gone by and it would keep him in a better spot to continue searching for a target. Once you've rolled out to one side or the other, you've cut half the field off to yourself. 

 

First things that needs fixing are Cam's protection and targets, would love to see what he could do with more than one receiver who can get separation on a consistent basis. 



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 11:10 AM

He needs to get that Peyton manning footwork. I believe gettlemen will drive that force into his head over the offseason. it's year 4 he needs to have that footwork ready for next season.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 11:51 AM

The game winning throw to Hixon vs the Saints was a good example of Cam stepping up in the pocket.  He does need to get better though cause he definitely tries to spin out of pressure at the wrong time sometimes, and often loses too many yards on sacks.



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 12:10 PM

I thought I saw what appeared to be some very nice soft touch passes in the first half before the rain started messing with his passes after the break.

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