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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:44 PM

Also Kentucky dominated that tourney going 6-0 while the ACC went 6-5.


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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:48 PM

Does not exist anymore, bro.

The school dropped UNC from their official name several years ago due to confusion with UNC-CH. It's now just Charlotte.

Really?  So their website is uncc.edu.  They never dropped the UNC from the university they just started calling the sports teams Charlotte 49ers.  Maybe you should spend a little more time on campus or at least check out wikipedia.  



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 12:52 PM

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Well UK, or maybe we could call them Kentucky University, was part of the "shitty" SEC that you talked about.



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:07 PM

Don't mention that Hood plays 33 minutes per game & PJ only played 23, I know it skews things.

 

You mean like FG%? Which Hood led. Minutes don't exactly matter for percentages, and Hood leads all categories there. 

 

Or Hood being the 2nd option? While PJ was the 1st option when he was in. 

 

A lot of things can skew the argument to either side. Systems, coaching styles, playing time, etc. If Jabari weren't at Duke, imagine Hood's numbers then. 



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:19 PM

Hasn't PJ scored over 40 twice now?  



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:19 PM

When PJ was getting starter minutes, seemingly began @ Duke and continued for 13 total games...

 

45% FG, 35.3% from 3, 18.2 PPG 

 

 

So, even when PJ was getting starter minutes down the stretch...he was not the shooter (percentage wise) that Hood was. 

 

Hood on the season, 51.1% FG, 44.8% from 3, 17.4 PPG

 

 

I'll take efficiency over that extra .8 PPG



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:43 PM

When PJ was getting starter minutes, seemingly began @ Duke and continued for 13 total games...

 

45% FG, 35.3% from 3, 18.2 PPG 

 

 

So, even when PJ was getting starter minutes down the stretch...he was not the shooter (percentage wise) that Hood was. 

 

Hood on the season, 51.1% FG, 44.8% from 3, 17.4 PPG

 

 

I'll take efficiency over that extra .8 PPG

 

 

I don't think we will even be able to compare their stats next to one another and be able to tell which player is better.  It's not an apples-to-apples comparison.  There can always be a "but" for either player.  Like...when PJ started starting last year he quickly had to become "the man".  He didn't get the benefit of playing next to the best player in the country.  

 

I don't know enough about Hood to say which is better (I don't watch dook games so I can be the first one to post on Facebook when they lose like all my ABCer friends do with the Heels).  But here's what I like about PJ:  he's tough, he's got great size and strength, he'll take it to the hole, he'll rebound, he can shoot (he's tearing it up from the NBA range already), and he's got an attitude.  If he can channel his inner troublemaker and stop being such a moron I think he gives the Hornets the edge (attitude-wise) that they need.  Plus he's currently projected to fall late in the first where we'll be picking.  



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:48 PM

I don't think we will even be able to compare their stats next to one another and be able to tell which player is better.  It's not an apples-to-apples comparison.  There can always be a "but" for either player.  Like...when PJ started starting last year he quickly had to become "the man".  He didn't get the benefit of playing next to the best player in the country.  

 

I don't know enough about Hood to say which is better (I don't watch dook games so I can be the first one to post on Facebook when they lose like all my ABCer friends do with the Heels).  But here's what I like about PJ:  he's tough, he's got great size and strength, he'll take it to the hole, he'll rebound, he can shoot (he's tearing it up from the NBA range already), and he's got an attitude.  If he can channel his inner troublemaker and stop being such a moron I think he gives the Hornets the edge (attitude-wise) that they need.  Plus he's currently projected to fall late in the first where we'll be picking.  

 

Yeah I'd have no problem drafting PJ. Would love it honestly. But I'm agreeing with the scouts and mock drafts on this one as it stands right now, and taking Hood. He's arguably been better than Jabari as of late. He can drive, obviously shoot, has great length and athleticism, and also seems to carry himself well on and off the court. I'd feel a lot better giving a guaranteed contract to Hood than I would PJ, especially if they're deemed to be the same caliber player. 



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:59 PM

Yeah I'd have no problem drafting PJ. Would love it honestly. But I'm agreeing with the scouts and mock drafts on this one as it stands right now, and taking Hood. He's arguably been better than Jabari as of late. He can drive, obviously shoot, has great length and athleticism, and also seems to carry himself well on and off the court. I'd feel a lot better giving a guaranteed contract to Hood than I would PJ, especially if they're deemed to be the same caliber player. 

 

 

I think we all agree that we need a good 2-guard and one that can shoot from the outside.  I love Hendo, but we need a shooter.  I think either one of those guys could become the starter - maybe not year one - but soon.  My thinking is, if the players are that close in comparison, which they seem to be, I'd rather grab PJ with the later pick than use the one that will be in the 10-15 range on virtually the same player.  

 

I'm liking Gordon or Ennis with the early pick

 

Edit:  And we're already WELL over our quota for dook players on our team



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:17 PM

I have to disagree, let's look at the leading scorers in the D league the last couple years.  2010 Ivan Johnson, 2011 Justin Dentmon, 2012 Chris Douglas-Roberts, 2013 Pierre Jackson.  Who are these guys?  The only one I know is CDR because he sits at the end of the Bobcats bench.  

 

Although I think Hairston is going to be a good player I think Hood's game is all around better, especially on the defensive end.  Draftexpress has Hood going at #14 and PJ going #26.

 

You and other posters tend to separate the competition by league not taking into account what a lot of these guys did in college and how good they were...

 

CDR averaged 18.1 ppg at Memphis his senior year... Dentmon averaged 14.4 ppg at Washington, Pierre Jackson averaged 19.8 ppg at Baylor... the D-League is essentially college all-star's that couldn't make the pro's. 

 

I'd rather Hairston play against that competition than the ACC this year (save Syracuse and Duke).



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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:20 PM

The Hornets already have MKG & Taylor. They don't need another small forward, they need a scoring guard. Hairston fits with the roster much better.

Hood is 6'8 200lb.

Good luck guarding NBA forwards with that scrawny frame.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:32 PM

The Hornets already have MKG & Taylor. They don't need another small forward, they need a scoring guard. Hairston fits with the roster much better.

Hood is 6'8 200lb.

Good luck guarding NBA forwards with that scrawny frame.


His shooting and quickness let's him be able to play both positions. Remember Steven Jackson was a 6'8 200lb SG.

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:34 PM

Don't mention that Hood plays 33 minutes per game & PJ only played 23, I know it skews things.


Again who's fault is that?

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:35 PM

I hope you're joking...


ACC was 6-3 vs SEC in 2011

NCAA Tournament Bids: ACC-7, SEC-5

Wins vs top 25: ACC-10, SEC-2

Wins vs top 100: ACC-56, SEC-24





PER 40 shows how much a player contributes while on the floor. Sorry it shows that PJ was a more productive collegiate ball player.


Wrong again do you know how to use Google search?

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:37 PM

Are you serious?  I would say at least 70% of those players you mentioned weren't considered "very good" college players.  I watch a lot of college basketball and I can't tell you who a lot of those guys are or who they even played for in college.

 

Then you obviously didn't watch a lot of college ball...

 

Most of those players were the best players on their college team... there's also a handful of guards/forwards (in that list) that had better stats in college than your boy Rodney Hood.

 

I'm not saying Hood won't be a good pro but Hairston is built to be an NBA player.

 

He has the body, the attitude, the game, and the desire to be "the guy". There are not many players that have those four things lined up like that... (Jabari Parker is one of those guys that has those four traits that will make him a really good player.




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