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#181 Rise of The Hive

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 11:08 PM

http://nba.si.com/20...mors-pau-gasol/

 

ESPN guy says Bobcats and Suns will be big traders

 

David Aldridge also said the same thing on Inside the NBA the other night.



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Posted 15 February 2014 - 11:32 PM

If Philly doesn't trade Turner, they'll treat him as an expiring, which is exactly what Gordon would be for them. Sure, Guest Gordon's salary is just about double Turner's (13.2m to about 6.7m), but they wouldn't be paying all of it.

The trade deadline basically represents the 2/3 point of the season, so 67% of the salaries have been paid. Also consider that teams can add up to 3m yearly to account for salary discrepancies.

Gordon: 13.2 / 3 = 4.4m
Turner: 6.7 / 3 = 2.2333333333....

So we can add the $2m to offset the salary differences if need-be. I think we have an offer on the table and Philly is just waiting to see if they can't get something better first. There's really no reason for them to not swap expirings if they can also get a pick out of it.

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:19 AM

Latest word is that Evan Turner isn't expected to be traded by the deadline, philly was holding out for a first round pick and no one has offered it up to them. 

 

 

http://nba.si.com/20...rs-evan-turner/

 

 

 

 

Also based on what Bonnell is saying, Cho has a bit of input on trades but not much.  Cho's main job is scouting the draft, most decisions are still mainly Higgins to make. 



#184 Proudiddy

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:35 AM

Latest word is that Evan Turner isn't expected to be traded by the deadline, philly was holding out for a first round pick and no one has offered it up to them. 

 

 

http://nba.si.com/20...rs-evan-turner/

 

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Also based on what Bonnell is saying, Cho has a bit of input on trades but not much.  Cho's main job is scouting the draft, most decisions are still mainly Higgins to make.

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:42 AM

lol, here's what I was talking about for those that haven't seen it.

 

https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell

 

@rick_bonnell Who is really in charge when it comes to trades/personnel decisions: Cho or Higgins?

 

@ahura23 I'd say more Higgins than Cho. Rod has been a good trader.

 

@rick_bonnell What! Then what is exactly the function of Rich Cho for the Bobcats?

 

@ahura23 I didn't say he has zero input on trades. But much of his job is scouting the draft.

 

 



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:43 AM

Last thing I saw on the Brandon Bass trade front was Cody Zeller to Boston for Bass straight up. 



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:49 AM

Last thing I saw on the Brandon Bass trade front was Cody Zeller to Boston for Bass straight up. 

If Higgins wasn't in charge of trades since Cho's been on, this deal would certainly signal that he's back in the driver's seat, lol.

 

What a horrible fuging trade.



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 11:54 AM

And I don't completely buy what Bonnell is saying here.  I respect Rick, and he IS the beat writer for our team, BUT, I just don't think Higgins has been at the helm over the trades we've done since Cho has been here. 

 

To me, there is a marked difference in the trades that happened before Cho was here, and the trades that have happened since.  We got worked over a majority of the trades we made prior to Cho, and we've unanimously came out on top of virtually all the trades we've completed since.



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 12:05 PM

And I don't completely buy what Bonnell is saying here.  I respect Rick, and he IS the beat writer for our team, BUT, I just don't think Higgins has been at the helm over the trades we've done since Cho has been here. 

 

To me, there is a marked difference in the trades that happened before Cho was here, and the trades that have happened since.  We got worked over a majority of the trades we made prior to Cho, and we've unanimously came out on top of virtually all the trades we've completed since.

 

 

I understand the system. Cho's input on trades is to smack the poo out of Higgins if the deal is horrible for Charlotte. 



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 01:07 PM

Bobcats main focus in trying to trade for Turner was to improve the SF position. They aren't really sold on either MKG or Taylor and want to get someone in at the 3 that can shoot the basketball and put up more points. 

 

 

Going into the trade deadline week the word is that the Bobcats are looking to improve at the 3 scoring wise. So if the Turner trade never happens, It's likely you'll see MKG moved during the period leading up to the draft. The team is wanting to upgrade at the 3 and was willing to offer MKG to Philly for Turner. Philly just wanted expiring's combined with first round picks though, so they would get a better early pick plus a few later first's. 



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 01:11 PM

Bobcats main focus in trying to trade for Turner was to improve the SF position. They aren't really sold on either MKG or Taylor and want to get someone in at the 3 that can shoot the basketball and put up more points. 

 

 

Going into the trade deadline week the word is that the Bobcats are looking to improve at the 3 scoring wise. So if the Turner trade never happens, It's likely you'll see MKG moved during the period leading up to the draft. The team is wanting to upgrade at the 3 and was willing to offer MKG to Philly for Turner. Philly just wanted expiring's combined with first round picks though, so they would get a better early pick plus a few later first's. 

 

Which is why the Turner move is absolutely STUPID.  He isn't a shooter, and is limited in range.  An offensive jack of all trades, but a master of none.  He's a limited offensive player, who's pretty good at a lot of things, but not really good or great at any. 

 

You want offense, and EVAN fuging TURNER is the guy you target?

 

Hopefully, we did give up discussions with them.



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 01:24 PM

Which is why the Turner move is absolutely STUPID.  He isn't a shooter, and is limited in range.  An offensive jack of all trades, but a master of none.  He's a limited offensive player, who's pretty good at a lot of things, but not really good or great at any. 

 

You want offense, and EVAN fuging TURNER is the guy you target?

 

Hopefully, we did give up discussions with them.

 

 

Hopefully, I mean if the team wants to give up on MKG.... Fine... Trade him for a first (I'm sure there's a playoff team that would take him on to be a glue guy and offer up a first in return. 

 

Target an scorer in the draft at the SF position and go from there. 

 

To actively target a Sf who isn't known as a shooter when you're looking to upgrade at shooting...is absurd. 

 

 

 

I would love it if MJ just did the right thing and fired Higgins and gave Cho an opportunity to actually run the full show for a few years. If it doesn't work out, move on and get an actual GM and not a yes man type of guy. 



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 01:28 PM

Hopefully, I mean if the team wants to give up on MKG.... Fine... Trade him for a first (I'm sure there's a playoff team that would take him on to be a glue guy and offer up a first in return. 

 

Target an scorer in the draft at the SF position and go from there. 

 

To actively target a Sf who isn't known as a shooter when you're looking to upgrade at shooting...is absurd. 

 

 

 

I would love it if MJ just did the right thing and fired Higgins and gave Cho an opportunity to actually run the full show for a few years. If it doesn't work out, move on and get an actual GM and not a yes man type of guy. 

 

Yeah, as the old saying goes, there are way too many cooks in the kitchen.  These rumors just don't make any sense at all.

 

And it baffles me that we, as fans, can sit here and dissect these rumors from every angle and KNOW whether it is good or bad, and yet, our front office still pursues them.  Some of these are so stupid, they should never have even been discussions in the first place.
 



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 01:33 PM

Yeah, as the old saying goes, there are way too many cooks in the kitchen.  These rumors just don't make any sense at all.

 

And it baffles me that we, as fans, can sit here and dissect these rumors from every angle and KNOW whether it is good or bad, and yet, our front office still pursues them.  Some of these are so stupid, they should never have even been discussions in the first place.
 

 

 

 

The problem with MJ running a team is that Higgins is always there with him. They do a very good job of ruining teams together. 



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Posted 17 February 2014 - 01:47 PM

I think what most are forgetting with Philly's situation is that they already have 6m in space and an open roster spot. They wouldn't want BG unless they got some major return on that. That's just for Charlotte sending them BG and them taking him, much less them sending back Turner. 

 

The only player's I've seen available that make sense for the Bobcats are Barnes, Thompson, Ariza and Afflalo. 

 

To get anyone of those players would likely take both BG and both the first round picks that Charlotte has available. For Barnes and Thompson you're looking at giving up a combination of MKG, Hendo, Tolliver, Bizmack, Zeller and both first round picks. 

 

 

It would likely take Tolliver, Hendo, Sessions/MKG and Detroit's pick to pry Barnes or Thompson away from GS. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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