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So how would you like this draft?

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I will never understand why everyone wants a TE so early. We're not the Patriots.

 

Remember how the Bengals have used two of their last four 1st rounders on tight ends?

 

Jermaine Gresham in 2013 - 461 yards, 4 TDs

Zach Ertz in 2013 - 445 yards, 2 TDs

 

Greg Olsen in 2013 - 816 yards, 6 TDs

 

If we want a guy to catch 400 yards and 2 or 3 TDs per season for us, then we're making a huge mistake by drafting him in the first. Or the second. Or the third.

 

You can find UDFA who can do this kind of stuff.

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Amaro with a first? Did I stumble into an alternate universe where it's cool to reach for third round prospects with a first round pick?

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Lol at Benjamin being there in the 2nd. Y'all laughed at me last year when I said Patterson and Hopkins will both be gone round 1.

Sammy will go top 10 if not top 5. Mike Evans in the top 15 and Benjamin and Lee will probably be late 1st rounders

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It would be OK.

I don't know that Benjamin is going to be around in the second, so if you want him you'd probably have to pull the trigger in the first (not that I would do it at this point). I have my eye on Ju'Wuan James in the second because of his reported talent, motor and mean streak. I don't know that Purifoy is going to last until our pick in the third, but I'd think about taking Keith McGill in his place, but would more than likely try to sneak McGill in the 4th. It would depend upon if Brandon Coleman is still on the board in the third, or some other WR like Abbrederis or Matthews. I'm also a proponent of getting Marcel Jensen, TE, who is reportedly a capable blocker in the later rounds.

Assuming you like McGill as a prospect, can you explain to me what's the big fuss about? Other than being 6'3" I don't see anything I like when watching cut ups on this kid.

Ever since the camera showed a 5 second clip on this kid at senior bowl practice and Mayock mentioning Sherman and Browners names with his, people have been bringing him up.

He's very slow. Watch the game against Colorado, Richardson constantly burns him. Watch the game against BYU, even when he is in correct position doesn't turn his head and locate the ball. He's very stiff and gets caught flat footed lots. When I watch McGill I don't see an athlete, he's not aggressive at all when it comes to stopping the run either. I know people are saying he could play safety if it doesn't work at corner, but I really don't think the athleticism is there.

At 6'3" it's easy to want to like this kid, so that's why I'm asking what you like about him.

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Assuming you like McGill as a prospect, can you explain to me what's the big fuss about? Other than being 6'3" I don't see anything I like when watching cut ups on this kid.

Ever since the camera showed a 5 second clip on this kid at senior bowl practice and Mayock mentioning Sherman and Browners names with his, people have been bringing him up.

He's very slow. Watch the game against Colorado, Richardson constantly burns him. Watch the game against BYU, even when he is in correct position doesn't turn his head and locate the ball. He's very stiff and gets caught flat footed lots. When I watch McGill I don't see an athlete, he's not aggressive at all when it comes to stopping the run either. I know people are saying he could play safety if it doesn't work at corner, but I really don't think the athleticism is there.

At 6'3" it's easy to want to like this kid, so that's why I'm asking what you like about him.

 

You have some valid concerns. McGill is very raw, but I have looked at a few videos of some of the higher prospects like Desir, Verrett and Gilbert, and I don't see that huge of a gap. I could be wrong though. It's not like watching corners is my forte, but I'm trying to educate myself with what's out there.  He is certainly not physical enough in the run game, even to the point of watching others finish off the tackling lest he get himself dirty (so to speak), but I don't really get why you don't see the athleticism. He's big and long enough to consistently affect the receiver's ability to make a clear read on the ball even when he is not exactly in the correct position from what I have seen, and I would think that with a little coaching that he could be very good. He needs more consistency. Yeah, he's not the fastest guy out there, but I wouldn't necessarily call him slow. Don't get me wrong, from what I've looked at, I think his floor is being a bigger version of Norman, but I also think that his ceiling could be closer to Sherman's. Admittedly (perhaps shamelessly), his size probably makes him look better to my eyes than perhaps it should right now. We'll see how the Combine turns out with him (and some of the others).

 

BTW, Richardson is not a slouch.

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Sounds perfectly easy and doable. You must be a GM

 

 

It seems like where not going to able to afford Hardy .............where not just gonna let him walk out for nothing (TAG / Trade) you would get minimum of 2nd round pick.

 

 

1st round -LT Cyrus Kouandjio   Alabama 6'-6" 315lbs

 

2nd round(trade pick) -TE Austin-Seferian-Jenkins Washington 6'-6" 276lbs 

 

 

2nd round - RG   Gabe Jackson - MSSTATE 6'-3" 335lbs

 

3rd round- WR Donte Moncrief -  Ole Miss - 6'-2" 226lbs

 

4th round-RT Seantrel Henderson - Miami - 6'-7" 331lbs

 

5th round-  CB  Walt Aikens -  Liberty 6'-1" 205lbs 

 

6th round-  OLB  Tyler Starr- South Dakota - 6'-4" 249lbs

 

7th round-  FS     Nickoe Whitley - MSSTATE  6'-0" 205lbs 

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It seems like where not going to able to afford Hardy .............where not just gonna let him walk out for nothing (TAG / Trade) you would get minimum of 2nd round pick.

 

 

1st round -LT Cyrus Kouandjio   Alabama 6'-6" 315lbs

 

2nd round(trade pick) -TE Austin-Seferian-Jenkins Washington 6'-6" 276lbs 

 

 

2nd round - RG   Gabe Jackson - MSSTATE 6'-3" 335lbs

 

3rd round- WR Donte Moncrief -  Ole Miss - 6'-2" 226lbs

 

4th round-RT Seantrel Henderson - Miami - 6'-7" 331lbs

 

5th round-  CB  Walt Aikens -  Liberty 6'-1" 205lbs 

 

6th round-  OLB  Tyler Starr- South Dakota - 6'-4" 249lbs

 

7th round-  FS     Nickoe Whitley - MSSTATE  6'-0" 205lbs 

 

 

I believe that everyone who thinks the "tag & trade" option for Hardy is going to be highly disappointed when that doesn't happen.  But that's just my opinion....

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Round 1 Pick 28: C.J. Mosley, OLB, Alabama (A)

Round 2 Pick 28: Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt (A)

Round 3 Pick 28: Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss (B+)

Round 4 Pick 28: Kenarious Gates, OT, Georgia (E)

Round 5 Pick 28: Deion Belue, CB, Alabama (B+)

Round 6 Pick 28: Chaz Sutton, DE, South Carolina (E)

Round 7 Pick 12: Chad Abram, FB, Florida State (C+)

 

 

all these rookies would make an immediate impact on carolina for a decade

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I will never understand why everyone wants a TE so early. We're not the Patriots.

 

Remember how the Bengals have used two of their last four 1st rounders on tight ends?

 

Jermaine Gresham in 2013 - 461 yards, 4 TDs

Zach Ertz in 2013 - 445 yards, 2 TDs

 

Greg Olsen in 2013 - 816 yards, 6 TDs

 

If we want a guy to catch 400 yards and 2 or 3 TDs per season for us, then we're making a huge mistake by drafting him in the first. Or the second. Or the third.

 

You can find UDFA who can do this kind of stuff

 

 

Just because the Bengals use their TEs innefectively does not mean that we would.

 

ASJ or Ebron would become one of our top receiving threats, whereas theirs are behind Green  and Jones who catch a ton of passes. 

 

I feel as though picking one of the TEs would be more of a BPA pick, while also filling a receiving need, and would add more value than reaching for a WR that doesn't match first round value. 

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