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#31 MCC

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 03:56 PM

I will never understand why everyone wants a TE so early. We're not the Patriots.

 

Remember how the Bengals have used two of their last four 1st rounders on tight ends?

 

Jermaine Gresham in 2013 - 461 yards, 4 TDs

Zach Ertz in 2013 - 445 yards, 2 TDs

 

Greg Olsen in 2013 - 816 yards, 6 TDs

 

If we want a guy to catch 400 yards and 2 or 3 TDs per season for us, then we're making a huge mistake by drafting him in the first. Or the second. Or the third.

 

You can find UDFA who can do this kind of stuff

 

 

Just because the Bengals use their TEs innefectively does not mean that we would.

 

ASJ or Ebron would become one of our top receiving threats, whereas theirs are behind Green  and Jones who catch a ton of passes. 

 

I feel as though picking one of the TEs would be more of a BPA pick, while also filling a receiving need, and would add more value than reaching for a WR that doesn't match first round value. 



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 04:30 PM

Just because the Bengals use their TEs innefectively does not mean that we would.

ASJ or Ebron would become one of our top receiving threats, whereas theirs are behind Green and Jones who catch a ton of passes.

I feel as though picking one of the TEs would be more of a BPA pick, while also filling a receiving need, and would add more value than reaching for a WR that doesn't match first round value.


Tight end isn't a need. We don't run two TE sets. Very few teams do. Besides, most of today's starting TEs are late rounders or went undrafted, so taking anyone other than a somehow falling Ebron in the first would be stupid.

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 04:40 PM

Tight end isn't a need. We don't run two TE sets. Very few teams do. Besides, most of today's starting TEs are late rounders or went undrafted, so taking anyone other than a somehow falling Ebron in the first would be stupid.

 

 

Agree to disagree, then, but your argument has holes.

 

We don't run two TE sets because we don't have the players for it. The same goes for other teams.



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 04:45 PM

I will never understand why everyone wants a TE so early. We're not the Patriots.

Remember how the Bengals have used two of their last four 1st rounders on tight ends?

Jermaine Gresham in 2013 - 461 yards, 4 TDs
Zach Ertz in 2013 - 445 yards, 2 TDs

Greg Olsen in 2013 - 816 yards, 6 TDs

If we want a guy to catch 400 yards and 2 or 3 TDs per season for us, then we're making a huge mistake by drafting him in the first. Or the second. Or the third.

You can find UDFA who can do this kind of stuff.

Zach ertz plays for philly. You are thinking of Tyler Eifert

Also they have Andy dalton throwing to them. Greg Olsen was most of the times the first option in the passing game. The bengals TEs were behind Aj green and Marvin jones. Your argument is really lacking.

We need legitimate pass catchers. Regardless of what arbitrary position they fall under. ASJ would help in the passing game catching blocking and help in the run game blocking.

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 04:47 PM

Tight end isn't a need. We don't run two TE sets. Very few teams do. Besides, most of today's starting TEs are late rounders or went undrafted, so taking anyone other than a somehow falling Ebron in the first would be stupid.

 

Tight end will be a need if we don't re-sign Hartsock. G-man alluded to the fact that we may have to start thinking about getting someone younger to groom as Hartsock is getting up there in age (34). I am like you in that I would draft Ebron, but I also like ASJ.  That being said, depending upon the Combine and how the draft goes, I really don't think either one will be on the board, so I am keeping an eye on Marcel Jensen in one of the later rounds, as he has shown flashes of play making ability, and he is a solid blocker from all accounts. 



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 04:47 PM

Benjamin in the second and Purifoy in the third would make me do a cartwheel despite the certainty that I'd pull something.



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 05:19 PM

Agree to disagree, then, but your argument has holes.

 

We don't run two TE sets because we don't have the players for it. The same goes for other teams.

 

That's not true. If we wanted to run a two TE set, we'd already have a 2nd viable pass-catching tight end. They're not that difficult to find, new ones come out of the woodwork yearly. In fact, Brandon Williams could be a diamond in the rough, yet we never even thought about using him because we don't run that type of offense.

 

 

Zach ertz plays for philly. You are thinking of Tyler Eifert

Also they have Andy dalton throwing to them. Greg Olsen was most of the times the first option in the passing game. The bengals TEs were behind Aj green and Marvin jones. Your argument is really lacking.

We need legitimate pass catchers. Regardless of what arbitrary position they fall under. ASJ would help in the passing game catching blocking and help in the run game blocking.

 

Yeah yeah, I meant Eifert, even looked up his stats, just wrote it totally wrong for whatever reason. And the Bengals were just an example. Cowboys took Escobar in the 2nd last year; 134 yards, 2 TDs. Zach Ertz: 469 yards, 4 TDs. Vance McDonald: 119 yards, 0 TDs. Travis Kelce: 0 yards, 0 TDs.

 

You can find guys in free agency who could double that production. You can find guys off the street that could match it. If it's not Ebron, who is the exception because he's gonna end up being a Jimmy Graham / Rob Gronk type player, then it's not worth it when he's not gonna be your #1 TE option.

 

Why would you spend a 1st or a 2nd on a #2 TE who will hit the field only in certain sets when you can spend that same pick finding a #1 WR or a #1 CB? Or a guy to shore up the offensive line? I just don't get it man.

 

 

Tight end will be a need if we don't re-sign Hartsock. G-man alluded to the fact that we may have to start thinking about getting someone younger to groom as Hartsock is getting up there in age (34). I am like you in that I would draft Ebron, but I also like ASJ.  That being said, depending upon the Combine and how the draft goes, I really don't think either one will be on the board, so I am keeping an eye on Marcel Jensen in one of the later rounds, as he has shown flashes of play making ability, and he is a solid blocker from all accounts. 

 

Late round TEs or getting the guy in free agency is the way to go, unless an Ebron type guy falls to you. Ebron will join the Graham/Gronk club up top.



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 05:19 PM

Nope!!! Id prefer this draft

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 05:38 PM

Late round TEs or getting the guy in free agency is the way to go, unless an Ebron type guy falls to you. Ebron will join the Graham/Gronk club up top.

 

How you can say that about Ebron and just leave out Sefarian-Jenkins is beyond me.

 

I can even make the case for Amaro, as I believe that he had more catches and receiving yards than any other TE in the nation. 

 

Well, you did say "Ebron type", so perhaps you're not limiting these guys.  I might add that if either Sefarian-Jenkins or Amaro are there in the second round (which I don't believe they'll be), we would have to give them a serious look.



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 05:52 PM

1)Walter Thurmond in FA

 

2) Lee falls to us.



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 06:01 PM

How you can say that about Ebron and just leave out Sefarian-Jenkins is beyond me.

 

I can even make the case for Amaro, as I believe that he had more catches and receiving yards than any other TE in the nation. 

 

Well, you did say "Ebron type", so perhaps you're not limiting these guys.  I might add that if either Sefarian-Jenkins or Amaro are there in the second round (which I don't believe they'll be), we would have to give them a serious look.

 

Because when I look at Eric Ebron, I see Jimmy Graham.



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 06:01 PM

That would be like the best draft ever if it happened

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 06:10 PM

1) Byron Maxwell in FA

2) Lee falls to us.


Do you mean Thurmond?

Maxwell isn't a FA

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 06:24 PM

Do you mean Thurmond?

Maxwell isn't a FA

yep



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Posted 04 February 2014 - 06:53 PM

I believe that everyone who thinks the "tag & trade" option for Hardy is going to be highly disappointed when that doesn't happen.  But that's just my opinion....

 

 

If he is going to be signed then i'm not going to be disappointed ......but they way things are looking he is going to a place which gives him the best contract and where not just going to let him walk away for nothing.  50/50 

 

Either we keep hardy or we get a draft pick .....its pretty simple.




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