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You think Hardy saw Michael Bennett's remarks on a "discount"?

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Jesus some of you need to get a grip.

Hardy is a phenomenal player and extraordinarily versatile as well. This "oh well he didn't have 5 sacks in a game the whole team laid an egg in" poo needs to stop. He is worth every penny of whatever he gets, and the only reason we won't sign him is because we have billions of dollars invested in people that don't play, don't produce, or aren't even on the fuging team anymore.

Stop hating on the guy because he produced and wants to get paid. If you need to belittle his contributions here to make you feel better about his leaving, then you need help and need to get over it already.

Look at his IG account. He posts negative articles and poo dumb fans say all the time. He's checked out of here and it sucks, but we need to just accept it and move on.

If you lurk on this board Greg and read this, thank you for your contributions to this team, for your leadership, your attitude, your craziness, and your effort. You deserve the contract you get and it's unfortunate my favorite team won't be able to re-sign you at the price you're going to command. Good luck and I hope you go to a team I don't completely hate so that I can continue to root for you as an individual.

 

I can't speak for everyone else.....but I don't hate on Greg Hardy.   Hope he comes back.  

 

It's hard to dispute that he and his agent are playing games though.  Best of luck to him.  

 

He wouldn't have put up the kind of numbers he had this season if it wasn't for CJ, Star, and the rest of DT rotation though.  Frank Alexander or Addison would have been pushing 10 sacks if they would have have started.

 

Like I said, Greg Hardy is a great player.  He will be missed, just not as much as everyone thinks.  

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Do teams pay more to a player if they overperform? Because Hardy has been overperforming compared to his contract here for 2 years. Should we give him millions of dollars extra now as compensation for what he did over the last two years?

 

And who are you saying that took advantage of a good team? 

 

Hardy has overperformed for two years. The other two he hardly played and had to learn. I think I would call that a even deal, especially with him violating his contract with riding a sports bike. The Panthers could have fined him a good bit for that.

 

 

So bad example, and thanks for playing but you lose.

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Hardy has overperformed for two years. The other two he hardly played and had to learn. I think I would call that a even deal, especially with him violating his contract with riding a sports bike. The Panthers could have fined him a good bit for that.

 

 

So bad example, and thanks for playing but you lose.

 

Hardy's salary until this year has basically what you would pay a good depth player (and this year he's just making what you would pay a mediocre starting DE), so the other two years he was not getting overpaid, and the past two he has been playing like someone getting paid 10 times what he's making now. It's nowhere near an even deal.

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/greg-hardy/

 

 

Besides, you didn't answer my question. Taking Hardy out of the equation completely, do teams pay players extra after the contract is over if they outperform their contract? Are the Seahawks going to pay Wilson the millions extra he should be making before they have to give him a long term deal?

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Wrong.

 

how? only some of the money on their contract is guaranteed, and most players do not see the end of that contract.

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and another thing you should realize, that a DE does job consist of more then just getting sacks. Greg is a complete DE on all phases of the game. i used to harp about how he would not read his keys in play-action or outside runs, but he has really stepped up in that department. this guy went from being a top 5 pick to being drafted in the 6th round. to being a rotational pass rusher, to a starter with potential, and now a stud pass rusher. he has played himself into as much money as possible.

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is he worth a couple first rounders? sure...but no one is going to pay that for him.

 

 

you never know.

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Hardy has overperformed for two years. The other two he hardly played and had to learn. I think I would call that a even deal, especially with him violating his contract with riding a sports bike. The Panthers could have fined him a good bit for that.

 

 

So bad example, and thanks for playing but you lose.

 

Russell Wilson is a good example.  Here's a guy that has out performed is contract exponentially.  But he's made a lot more money then his on paper salary if you just look at endorsements....mainly from Xbox1, and he'll probably be on the next Madden cover......whatever that pays.

 

Greg Hardy has definitely earned a massive raise, but he's only been dominant for 1 season.  If he thinks he deserves a high contract because he thinks he deserves back pay...well....bye.

 

Lets not forget he was playing against a rookie back up against the Saints.  He got shut out in the first match up.  Without that game against the Saints we're not even talking big money.  

 

Anyway he needs to send Terron Armstead a nice watch or something.

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you never know.

 

i don't particularly want to find out.

 

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i don't particularly want to find out.

 

 

Well, like I had expressed before: If let's say the Raiders wanted to give us a one and Denarius Moore, I'd take that deal. Possibly even a two and Moore. We could do a lot with a two in this draft.

 

Hell, a two and a three might be lovely.

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i do not blame them.in a game as violent as the NFL, and no guaranteed contracts, you get as much money as possible before you leave.

Besides for the money that IS guaranteed...lol. 

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