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You think Hardy saw Michael Bennett's remarks on a "discount"?


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Posted 12 February 2014 - 03:54 PM

and another thing you should realize, that a DE does job consist of more then just getting sacks. Greg is a complete DE on all phases of the game. i used to harp about how he would not read his keys in play-action or outside runs, but he has really stepped up in that department. this guy went from being a top 5 pick to being drafted in the 6th round. to being a rotational pass rusher, to a starter with potential, and now a stud pass rusher. he has played himself into as much money as possible.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 03:57 PM

is he worth a couple first rounders? sure...but no one is going to pay that for him.

 

 

you never know.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 04:15 PM

Hardy has overperformed for two years. The other two he hardly played and had to learn. I think I would call that a even deal, especially with him violating his contract with riding a sports bike. The Panthers could have fined him a good bit for that.

 

 

So bad example, and thanks for playing but you lose.

 

Russell Wilson is a good example.  Here's a guy that has out performed is contract exponentially.  But he's made a lot more money then his on paper salary if you just look at endorsements....mainly from Xbox1, and he'll probably be on the next Madden cover......whatever that pays.

 

Greg Hardy has definitely earned a massive raise, but he's only been dominant for 1 season.  If he thinks he deserves a high contract because he thinks he deserves back pay...well....bye.

 

Lets not forget he was playing against a rookie back up against the Saints.  He got shut out in the first match up.  Without that game against the Saints we're not even talking big money.  

 

Anyway he needs to send Terron Armstead a nice watch or something.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 04:15 PM

you never know.

 

i don't particularly want to find out.
 



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 04:34 PM

i don't particularly want to find out.
 

 

Well, like I had expressed before: If let's say the Raiders wanted to give us a one and Denarius Moore, I'd take that deal. Possibly even a two and Moore. We could do a lot with a two in this draft.

 

Hell, a two and a three might be lovely.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 04:40 PM

i do not blame them.in a game as violent as the NFL, and no guaranteed contracts, you get as much money as possible before you leave.

Besides for the money that IS guaranteed...lol. 



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 05:28 PM

Besides for the money that IS guaranteed...lol. 

 

which is only a % of  money that the contract was signed for. compare that to other sports NBA, MLB who have or are very close to having fully guaranteed contracts. plus which of the 3 is the most violent, tearing your body up, and does more damage to you physically/ mentally  over the years?



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 05:44 PM

How would someone like it if their boss came to them and asked them to take a pay cut(hometown discount) lol...If anyone thinks any NFL Player would take a hometown discount, they are out of their mind.

 

Before anyone brings up the Mike Tolbert situation let me explain. I believe that the only reason Tolbert came to play for us for less money than what the Chargers offered him has a lot to do with cost of living in San Diego vs Charlotte. In terms of living expenses i bet what he was offered by SD was comparable to what he was offered by us



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 05:51 PM

which is only a % of  money that the contract was signed for. compare that to other sports NBA, MLB who have or are very close to having fully guaranteed contracts. plus which of the 3 is the most violent, tearing your body up, and does more damage to you physically/ mentally  over the years?

 

Unless you're a drafted rookie under the new CBA...their contracts are 100% guaranteed.

 

If there were no such thing as guaranteed contracts in the NFL, we wouldn't have millions of dollars of our salary cap going to players that are no longer on the team.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 06:10 PM

Unless you're a drafted rookie under the new CBA...their contracts are 100% guaranteed.

 

If there were no such thing as guaranteed contracts in the NFL, we wouldn't have millions of dollars of our salary cap going to players that are no longer on the team.

 

It depends on the contract. I don''t know how you can say that their contracts are 100 percent guaranteed, when most of the time only a portion of the contract is actually guaranteed. Am I missing something?



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 06:32 PM

It depends on the contract. I don''t know how you can say that their contracts are 100 percent guaranteed, when most of the time only a portion of the contract is actually guaranteed. Am I missing something?

 

No, you're right. My bad.

 

Cam's deal was 4 years 22 million fully guaranteed. I think it is the case that a lot of first round guys have their contracts fully guaranteed but late-first rounders and later depend on the team. You could have 3.5 years guaranteed or 3 years, and maybe less the later you're drafted. But still, when they're given 4 year deals, 75-80% guarantees are not bad.

 

I understand that with the exception of top draft picks no NFL contracts are 100% guaranteed, but almost all of them DO have guaranteed money. Just because it's not 100% doesn't mean it's not guaranteed. That's just a matter of semantics.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 06:35 PM

Unless you're a drafted rookie under the new CBA...their contracts are 100% guaranteed.

 

If there were no such thing as guaranteed contracts in the NFL, we wouldn't have millions of dollars of our salary cap going to players that are no longer on the team.

Base salaries aren't guaranteed, only bonuses (signing, roster, workout, etc.) and other incentives are guaranteed.  Player salaries only become guaranteed if the player is on the roster for week one of the current season...but salaries for subsequent seasons do not get guaranteed.




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