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#61 TheRed

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 06:09 PM

Yeah guys I am smelling the exact same thing that CatfanMO is. If you have read my posts I am on board that Incognito is a complete douche and idiot and bully. But I actually went and read about half of the Wells report and it comes across as very political and very agenda driven.

 

I've read too many of these lawyers reports and it just smells.

 

Will read some more tomorrow and try to make some observations.

 

Well, it's all about how you interpret it.

 

I'll look over the full report tonight probably, but I was just trying to figure out why CatfanMO felt the need to insert Michael Sam into this.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 06:20 PM

By the way, while people are screaming conspiracy about Incognito being railroaded, understand that this isn't just about Martin.

 

We found that the Assistant Trainer, who was born in Japan, was the target of frequent and persistent harassment, including insults relating to his race and national origin. This included joking threats -- with props -- to harm the trainer on the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor.

 



#63 Jangler

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 06:25 PM

Well, it's all about how you interpret it.
 
I'll look over the full report tonight probably, but I was just trying to figure out why CatfanMO felt the need to insert Michael Sam into this.

 
 
Probably comes from the conclusion on page 140 of the report
 
 

As all must surely recognize, the NFL is not an ordinary workplace. 
Professional football is a rough, contact sport played by men of exceptional size, speed, 
strength and athleticism. But even the largest, strongest and fleetest person may be 
driven to despair by bullying, taunting and constant insults. We encourage the creation of 
new workplace conduct rules and guidelines that will help ensure that players respect 
each other as professionals and people.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 06:29 PM

Well I would have to say that may be reaching then.



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 06:41 PM

Well I would have to say that may be reaching then.

 

Yeah as far as tying the 2 stories together, but the NFL does need to get ahead of this, because we all know more players will be coming out in the future. And I do believe there was a secret bully/love affair going on here.



#66 CatfanMO

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 09:36 PM

I am just practicing critical thinking. Something that is rarely taught in schools any more..

#67 Mr. Scot

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:40 PM

I am just practicing critical thinking. Something that is rarely taught in schools any more..


Reading the stuff in that report and still being able to say anything remotely positive about Richie Incognito doesn't sound like a great example of 'critical thinking'.

This putz is most definitely never coming anywhere near this team. My guess is that he's off a lot of other team's radar screens too.

It's hard to believe anybody would still suggest we should sign him.

#68 SZ James

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:48 PM

http://www.carolinah...incognito-saga/



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:48 PM

Reading the stuff in that report and still being able to say anything remotely positive about Richie Incognito doesn't sound like a great example of 'critical thinking'.

This putz is most definitely never coming anywhere near this team. My guess is that he's off a lot of other team's radar screens too.

 

The report solidifies Incognito as a douche. In fact there are some added anecdotes that make we want to pay to see the guy smacked in the nuts a few times. Page 83 "7. Treatment of the Assistant Trainer" is a particularly dickbag portrayal of this guy if you want to have a read.

 

http://i.usatoday.ne...duct-report.pdf

 

But it is not an unbiased nor independent report I am pretty certain. Will post my reasons tomorrow



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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:56 PM

The report solidifies Incognito as a douche. In fact there are some added anecdotes that make we want to pay to see the guy smacked in the nuts a few times. Page 83 "7. Treatment of the Assistant Trainer" is a particularly dickbag portrayal of this guy if you want to have a read.

http://i.usatoday.ne...duct-report.pdf

But it is not an unbiased nor independent report I am pretty certain. Will post my reasons tomorrow


The texts between he and Mike Pouncey and teammate references to 'The Tornado' are pretty damning.

As to the objectivity, I'm not sure what Ted Wells has to gain from this result as opposed to one exonerating Incognito. It also makes both the Dolphins and the NFL look bad (especially the Dolphins) and even puts the NFLPA in a tough spot, so it's hard to buy that any of them were hoping for these sorts of revelations.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 05:55 AM

I am glad to see a good deal of folks on here isn't defending nor justifying Incognito's behavior. I am a bit troubled by those who seem to want to sit and dissect an article that clearly shows not only behavior that went beyond what should be acceptable in today's football locker room but the psychology of a guy who is raised to bully others and the psychology of his victims. 

 

The racial component of this incident we won't even go into because it has become more than clear that some of you seem to have a pre-set outlook on all situations based on race and your rationale leaves much to be desired. I wonder if Jonathan was your son, how would you feel about Incognito saying a lot of the uncalled for isn he was saying and his treatment of other human beings. 

 



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Posted 15 February 2014 - 06:24 AM

The texts between he and Mike Pouncey and teammate references to 'The Tornado' are pretty damning.

As to the objectivity, I'm not sure what Ted Wells has to gain from this result as opposed to one exonerating Incognito. It also makes both the Dolphins and the NFL look bad (especially the Dolphins) and even puts the NFLPA in a tough spot, so it's hard to buy that any of them were hoping for these sorts of revelations.

 

Why does it make an entire organization look bad when a couple of people act like ass-holes? I feel the same way when less than 1% of the minorities in the NFL get into any sort of  trouble and media paints their behavior with such a broad stroke that many of you simply run with it and start labeling and judging accordingly. 

 

Maybe Incognito should have been out of the NFL a long time ago seeing that his behavior is quite a legend with the other teams he played for.  I was quite surprised to see that not one person, white or black, from his previous team came to his defense but instead hinted of his abusive nature. In his case I can see where one can hold the NFL and NFLPA at fault for not kicking him out of the league but Dolphins are no different than any other team who was willing to look past Incognito's behavior issues because they felt he was a good player. Heck some fans on here started a thread wondering if the Panthers should take him. 

 

In the case with Jonathan, I honestly don't get some of the attitude towards his desire to speak up. I don't get why his manhood is being questioned because he doesn't fit the typical ignorant views some of you seem to have of black young men being nothing more than "thugs" who belong in jail. He's all of a sudden a "woos" because of his upbringing? Go figure. I find it blatantly hypocritical for this society to be all against bullying but want to redefine it base on who is attacker and who is on the receiving end of the attack.

 

I guess since Martin comes from decent pedigree and one cannot search his background for any hint of "thug" like behavior to say he deserves what he's getting, then I guess that makes him a "punk." Yep, the psychology of this society. 



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Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:20 AM

CatfanMO is clearly Richie Incognito's dad.



#74 CatfanMO

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 10:48 AM

Nothing like that at all. To me it is all about the timing of this and Micheal Sams. Just wait and see. Do you think Incognito is the first douche bag in the nfl that treated another player bad? Please take off the blind folds pertaining to current events.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 10:50 AM

CatfanMO is clearly Richie Incognito's dad.


And you are clearly 12. I hope that cuts as deep as your slam.


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