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Don't Expect a Discount From Hakeem Nicks... He Just Signed with Roc Nation as His Representation


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#16 micnificent28

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:39 AM

I don't understand the statement made by the poster. Just because you sign with roc nation doesnt mean anything. Nicks is still free to accept what he wants. Fact is he hasn't had a thousand yard season since his rookie year. He isn't going to demand the money he thinks and roc nation is scraping the bottom of the barrel after missing out on several of this years to draft talents.



#17 rayzor

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:42 AM

they can only accept what someone offers them

yeah, this won't matter.

 

jayz's impact is overrated.

 

he's not going to magically make nicks better. he's not magically going to make the market better. slapping a jayz sticker on him isn't going to make him more expensive.

 

he's going to get what he's going to get regardless of who represents him. this won't make him much more money. all this stands to do is possibly make him hold out longer for a better deal which will more than likely backfire because those who act quickest in the FA market makes more money....unless they plan on staying with their original team.

 

this is nothing more than an ego stroke for nicks. there won't be any additional compensation.

 



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:47 AM

My assumption is no, Jay-Z and the hype around his representation won't demand more, but my point is, he's less likely to sign somewhere for reasons other than money, and we don't have a lot of that to give out, so odds are, he'll look elsewhere.

 

I really want us to try to sign him, but I don't think he'll be interested for what we're gonna offer.



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:52 AM

My assumption is no, Jay-Z and the hype around his representation won't demand more, but my point is, he's less likely to sign somewhere for reasons other than money, and we don't have a lot of that to give out, so odds are, he'll look elsewhere.

 

I really want us to try to sign him, but I don't think he'll be interested for what we're gonna offer.

 

i don't think that he'd get more here than anywhere else.

 

the market just isn't player friendly. the added cap will help some, but when you take into account his lack of production last year as well as the reports of him slacking off last year and heading into the season, as well as the level of competition among FA WRs being incredibly comparable to him and the quality depth of this WR draft class, i don't see this being a year that WRs bank that much.

 

aside from the first WR or two who sign and those couple who re-sign with their teams, there just isn't going to be much money going to WRs or really anyone this year.

 

 



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:54 AM

Don't see how this changes anything...

Still want him. This is the perfect place for him to get his career back on track.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:56 AM

i don't think that he'd get more here than anywhere else.

 

the market just isn't player friendly. the added cap will help some, but when you take into account his lack of production last year as well as the reports of him slacking off last year and heading into the season, as well as the level of competition among FA WRs being incredibly comparable to him and the quality depth of this WR draft class, i don't see this being a year that WRs bank that much.

 

aside from the first WR or two who sign and those couple who re-sign with their teams, there just isn't going to be much money going to WRs or really anyone this year.

 

Agreed,plus he has had some injuries.There are several good receivers to pick from.



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:59 AM

His discount will be put into place by something called "market forces."

 

Maybe Oakland overpays with their heaps of cap room, but I can't see anyone paying top dollar for 0 TD's.

 

It's no so much the goose egg in TDs (as everyone's production was down), but the injury history.  



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:00 PM

I think the "discount" will come in the form of his poor performance last year combined with the rumors about the fines he got for being late and skipping rehab sessions. If this enables us to get him at a reasonable price we have to hope that playing for his successful hometown team will provide him with the motivation he seems to need to get his career back on track. 



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:05 PM

yeah, this won't matter.

 

jayz's impact is overrated.

 

he's not going to magically make nicks better. he's not magically going to make the market better. slapping a jayz sticker on him isn't going to make him more expensive.

 

he's going to get what he's going to get regardless of who represents him. this won't make him much more money. all this stands to do is possibly make him hold out longer for a better deal which will more than likely backfire because those who act quickest in the FA market makes more money....unless they plan on staying with their original team.

 

this is nothing more than an ego stroke for nicks. there won't be any additional compensation.

 

For all we know, Jay-Z and Co. will be totally in over their heads against the sharks in NFL front offices... has Jay-Z hired anyone that has significant experience negotiating player contracts in the NFL? 



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:10 PM

For all we know, Jay-Z and Co. will be totally in over their heads against the sharks in NFL front offices... has Jay-Z hired anyone that has significant experience negotiating player contracts in the NFL? 

 

jayz might be savvy in the entertainment and fashion industry, but he's a newb in the football industry.

 

i doubt that he carries the weight in sports that he does elsewhere. eventually he might, but for the moment i don't see him having a leg up on anyone and i doubt that the people running the teams will be impressed by this music guy coming in and demanding more money for his players. they won't care who he is.

 

plus, i think that jayz will be a relative flash in the pan. i don't see this as being something he'll be in for the long haul.



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:14 PM

Jay Z is just the head of the agency(In partnership with CAA) guys, he has actual agents with experience doing the main negotiations etc. He probably mainly handles marketing side and such.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:18 PM

93 Receptions
1304 Receiving Yards
9 Touchdowns
14.02 Yards/Reception


109 Receptions
1588 Receiving Yards
3 Touchdowns
14.56 Yards/Reception


These are stats from two receivers the last two years. One is Hakeem Nicks and the other is Brandon LaFell. If Nicks thinks he's gonna get a mega contract from somebody he is out of his mind. If someone gives Nicks a mega contract, they are out of their mind.

I'd like to have the guy here but the NFL is a "what have you done for me lately" type business, and you can only overpay so much for "potential" IMO.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:33 PM

Why would a marketing team affect his contract negotiations?

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:29 PM

We were the only place talking about any sort of discount from Nicks, it was always an offseason pipe dream.

#30 heel31ok

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:42 PM

93 Receptions
1304 Receiving Yards
9 Touchdowns
14.02 Yards/Reception


109 Receptions
1588 Receiving Yards
3 Touchdowns
14.56 Yards/Reception


These are stats from two receivers the last two years. One is Hakeem Nicks and the other is Brandon LaFell. If Nicks thinks he's gonna get a mega contract from somebody he is out of his mind. If someone gives Nicks a mega contract, they are out of their mind.

I'd like to have the guy here but the NFL is a "what have you done for me lately" type business, and you can only overpay so much for "potential" IMO.

it depends on who the player is . There are many in the NFL that are paid and going to be paid on potential.




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