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Posted 21 February 2014 - 02:28 PM

Another guy you might want to watch is a small school guy named Jeff Janis.  Saginaw Valley State I think.  Pretty fast kid and also fairly tall.

 

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 02:39 PM

Huge Clemson fan here. I'll reiterate other people's thoughts. Great size, elite speed, and good hands. He has been the fastest kid at Clemson(including Watkins) the past 3 years. My biggest issue is his production. He's played in a pass happy offense and had Watkins on the other side of him all year and still struggled to make plays. All last offseason we heard he was lights out in practice and was going to be a star this year but it just never came to fruition. I love him as an athlete but not as a football player. I think he really could've helped his stock by staying in school one more year. I'd be willing to spend a 4th/5th if our coaches think they can coach through his learning curve.

 

Yeah, I was looking over the youtube highlights last night & I noticed almost all of them have the same set of plays. Not unexpected for a college player (Jr at that) but as you said, with Watkins on the other side & people keying on him, it seems like Bryant should have some more looks. For example, on the 2-3 minute clips, Watkins has several "wow" plays that repeat, then several of the favorite plays of whomever uploaded the vid. Bryant just has the same plays.

 

 

ETA: As a side note, this coverage is officially the NF-manzieL Network...



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 04:36 PM

Yeah, I was looking over the youtube highlights last night & I noticed almost all of them have the same set of plays. Not unexpected for a college player (Jr at that) but as you said, with Watkins on the other side & people keying on him, it seems like Bryant should have some more looks. For example, on the 2-3 minute clips, Watkins has several "wow" plays that repeat, then several of the favorite plays of whomever uploaded the vid. Bryant just has the same plays.

 

 

ETA: As a side note, this coverage is officially the NF-manzieL Network...

 a good site to go to is Draftbreakdown.com     right now the have the combine numbers but with some effort you can get to their prospects list and they put up individual highlight videos for most of the players.most of the wR prospects have at least one video.



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Posted 21 February 2014 - 04:40 PM

 a good site to go to is Draftbreakdown.com     right now the have the combine numbers but with some effort you can get to their prospects list and they put up individual highlight videos for most of the players.most of the wR prospects have at least one video.

 

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 10:00 PM

Even Sammy Watkins admitted his route running was shaky at best at Clemson, and this guy wasnt nearly as good as him.



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Posted 22 February 2014 - 05:33 PM

He drops..a LOOOT of passes.

He is like Tommy Streeter from Miami.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 09:23 PM

He is not 6'5" but 6' 3 1/2"

 

Not that much of a difference, but it also brings him back to the pack



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Posted 23 February 2014 - 09:35 AM

4.34 on his first attempt unofficially. 



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Posted 23 February 2014 - 09:40 AM

Physically this guy is randy moss...

I like him if he can be coached look out...

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 08:45 AM

Like all the measurable but way to skinny in my opinion.

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:01 PM

I've always would have rather have Bryant than watkins.

 

more of a pure WR.. seen him make more incredible catches than sammy. but sam gets all the glory with his screens



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 04:07 PM

I've always would have rather have Bryant than watkins.

 

more of a pure WR.. seen him make more incredible catches than sammy. but sam gets all the glory with his screens

 

As a Clemson fan, I've watched both their whole careers. Bryant has all the potential in the world to be that next AJ Green, but he is way too inconsistent (right now) to be a day one dependable target. Honestly, he should have came back another year to progress, especially since Sammy always drew double teams. I see him being a less consistent Lafell, which is saying something. I'd take him in the 4th round, but no higher. He will be a project.

 

As to Sammy and all his screens...if you watch his tape, there s no denying he received a fair amount of screens, especially in the Orange Bowl. It is a part of Chad Morris' offense to keep the outside defenders honest. But you go back and watch virtually any game he played, he was down field at least 10 yards getting his yards. Even from his freshman year, he could take a quick 7-10 yard pass to the house (see 2011 vs Auburn, 2011 vs FSU). As for this past year, he would just BLOW by defenders (see 2012 vs. Wake Forest, this year vs. UGA, Syracuse, Maryland, Virginia, OSU I'm sure there's more) While not probable (especially with Gross retiring), trading our 1st and 2nd picks and maybe a late pick next year to get in that top 5 would be the best move to make. Sammy is something special. He is definitely a more pure receiver than Bryant, since having good hands is crucial to being a solid WR (which Bryant does not). Call me biased, I do not care he is going to be a monster. Look at how Atlanta trading up to get Julio Jones ended up. It's time to take chance on a potential superstar rather than sit back and get some "pretty good" players. 




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