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#37 AceMan

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 03:02 PM

I'm thinking....

 

LT -  Draft pick / Oher (FA)

LG - Silatolu

C - Kalil

RG - Chandler/Kugbila/etc.

RT - Oher (FA) / Draft Pick



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 03:18 PM

 Silatolu is an upgrade from Wharton.

 

No he is not.  Silatolu was bad at LG.  People keep forgetting this.  They see a play where he makes a great run block and think OMG he is a beast.  On the other hand they ignore where he completely whiffs on pass blocking.   Our line play got immediately better when Wharton replaced him.  Maybe at RG he would be better.

 

To be clear, Silatolu has not been consistent in anyway shape or form.  He went from really bad, to just ok bad his rookie season and everyone gave him a pass because he improved so much.  He is very inconsistent and the left side of our line improved dramatically when he was out.   He should play at RG because he is perhaps better than Chandler especially in run blocking.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 03:20 PM

You read my mind. Byron Bell isnt going anywhere anymore. His spot was just solidify when Gross retired. Chandler could very well also hold onto his RG position, but we could use an upgrade there (John Jerry?).

 

The only two names that are projected to be available at 28 that I would seriously take are: Zack Martin and Cyrus Kouandjio. You would almost have to take Martin if he was there. No way Gman would pass him up with a hole that big at the LT spot. I expect our medical staff to take a hard, hard, very hard look on Kouandjio's knee. If they believe that it's not as big a serious issue as it seem, we almost have to take him if he's there. The talent is there with CK.

 

"NO" to Morgan Moses, Tiny Richardson (knee), Mewhort, etc.
 

I agree with everything you said minus Tiny Richardson.  There is a reason he played left tackle and James played RT at Tennessee.  If James was better he would have been the LT.

 

Obviously if his knees are jacked up to the extent that it inhibits the rest of his career there's no point, but if he can hold down Clowney on bad knees....imagine what a year of rehab would do.  I know Clowney sort of folded it in this past season because of injury risk.  But he did a hell of a job on Clowney the season before too....and that was Clowney's best year of collegiate football.  If anything he would give us what Otah gave us when he was healthy at RT.  Damn how we all wish Otah would have worked out.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 03:21 PM

amini played LT in college right? maybe they are grooming him to step up and play LT now that Gross is gone...

 

 

just a thought. 

 

Sadly, his game doesn't translate to that of a tackle. He's more of a power run blocker, a guy who overwhelms his opposite with size and strength, allowing him to win off the line of scrimmage (when he does win). LTs need to be athletic, know how to bend and how to recover, and have to have light feet. That isn't Amini.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 03:24 PM

No he is not.  Silatolu was bad at LG.  People keep forgetting this.  They see a play where he makes a great run block and think OMG he is a beast.  On the other hand they ignore where he completely whiffs on pass blocking.   Our line play got immediately better when Wharton replaced him.  Maybe at RG he would be better.

 

To be clear, Silatolu has not been consistent in anyway shape or form.  He went from really bad, to just ok bad his rookie season and everyone gave him a pass because he improved so much.  He is very inconsistent and the left side of our line improved dramatically when he was out.   He should play at RG because he is perhaps better than Chandler especially in run blocking.

Better run blocker and athlete.  You're judging a guy that's a physical freak that came from a small college in his rookie year.  Silatolu was going to have a hell of year last year until he got hurt.  You don't remember the well documented epic battles he had with Star in training camp?  This will be his 3rd year in an NFL system.  Wharton might have more veteran tricks....but the only reason Wharton was brought back was because of Amini's injury. 

 

You might be right.....the coaching staff seems to disagree with you though.  



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 03:27 PM

Better run blocker and athlete. You're judging a guy that's a physical freak that came from a small college in his rookie year. Silatolu was going to have a hell of year last year until he got hurt. You don't remember the well documented epic battles he had with Star in training camp? This will be his 3rd year in an NFL system. Wharton might have more veteran tricks....but the only reason Wharton was brought back was because of Amini's injury.

You might be right.....the coaching staff seems to disagree with you though.


Amini was bad his rookie year but steadily improved to a good player at the end of the year. And he was on pace to have a great year this year, really unfortunate injury, I don't know what the other poster is talking about

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 03:32 PM

No he is not.  Silatolu was bad at LG.  People keep forgetting this.  They see a play where he makes a great run block and think OMG he is a beast.  On the other hand they ignore where he completely whiffs on pass blocking.   Our line play got immediately better when Wharton replaced him.  Maybe at RG he would be better.

 

To be clear, Silatolu has not been consistent in anyway shape or form.  He went from really bad, to just ok bad his rookie season and everyone gave him a pass because he improved so much.  He is very inconsistent and the left side of our line improved dramatically when he was out.   He should play at RG because he is perhaps better than Chandler especially in run blocking.

 

 

Like I said the guy was a rookie coming from a small college that flashed great potential.  You can't put all pro expectations on an NFL lineman like that his rookie year.  All Amini needed was reps, confidence in the scheme, and adjustment to the speed of the game.  Bottom line.....our run game is a whole lot better with him in the line up.

 

Travelle (go gamecocks) was better in his prime, but not now.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 05:28 PM

I'm 170lbs and 5'9 I think I could compete with Bell lol


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Posted 27 February 2014 - 05:49 PM

Weird how difficult it is to find 5 good fat guy

 

 

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 05:54 PM

i know everyone hates Bell but now that Gross has retired there is no way Bell is not coming back. I dont see anyway we go into next season with two new tackles. now what you could see is nate chandler moving to tackle

 

 

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Posted 27 February 2014 - 10:22 PM

I agree with everything you said minus Tiny Richardson. There is a reason he played left tackle and James played RT at Tennessee. If James was better he would have been the LT.

Obviously if his knees are jacked up to the extent that it inhibits the rest of his career there's no point, but if he can hold down Clowney on bad knees....imagine what a year of rehab would do. I know Clowney sort of folded it in this past season because of injury risk. But he did a hell of a job on Clowney the season before too....and that was Clowney's best year of collegiate football. If anything he would give us what Otah gave us when he was healthy at RT. Damn how we all wish Otah would have worked out.


Oh def. I'm a fan of Tiny Rich. If his knee checks out I would really consider him too. I'm just not hearing anything that will help clear it up.

I can def live with an Otah2.0.