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#11 Promethean Forerunner

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:01 AM

I thought Easley projects to a 3 tech, so I have not been looking at him at all. I have heard that repeated knee (?) issues have some crossing him off the board. I am not at all familiar with McDonald. I need to look him up--probably listed as an OLB because he was at Staford.


My apologies! I meant Gardner. He was considered a second round prospect last year. Had he avoided injury this past season, he would have been a top five DE in this draft.

Easley can play all over the line like Hardy. I do like him inside more but he's pressured QBs from the outside too. So I can definitely see him at LE. The injuries do worry me though.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:07 AM

My apologies! I meant Gardner. He was considered a second round prospect last year. Had he avoided injury this past season, he would have been a top five DE in this draft.

Easley can play all over the line like Hardy. I do like him inside more but he's pressured QBs from the outside too. So I can definitely see him at LE. The injuries do worry me though.

When I saw Easley, he was beasting and they (if I am not mistaken) moved him around a lot.  He is at 280, so he is a good option if we part ways with Hardy.  I also liked Will Clarke, the DE from WV who was awesome at the Senior Bowl, as a 4th round option. 



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:16 AM

When I saw Easley, he was beasting and they (if I am not mistaken) moved him around a lot. He is at 280, so he is a good option if we part ways with Hardy. I also liked Will Clarke, the DE from WV who was awesome at the Senior Bowl, as a 4th round option.


Oh yeah, the guy was on his way to being drafted in the first round by the way he started off the season too. Easley is an animal (high-motor, intense, versatile, violent hands, agile and athletic) and we might be able to pick him at a great value.

Clarke impressed me too. If he's there in fourth, fifth, sixth,... we gotta take him. He appears to have some upside.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:24 AM

Peppers (14 million)?

Nope. Not with The Panthers.

 

That figure is what Hardy is supposedly going to start with and negotiate from there.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:28 AM

This year, we pick late and there is not really much to choose from at DE.  Hardy had field days against weak LTs, racking up 15 sacks. I definitely would like to see another season before I paid him nearly $1m per game.

 

I think the tag, to extend what Panther 55 says, will def. non-exclusive rights so we could entertain offers.  I don't get the feeling the Panthers are in love with GH, but they don't want to get nothing for him.

 

all good DEs have field days against weak LTs.

 

not all DEs have field days against weak LTs.

 

see what I did there?



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:48 AM

all good DEs have field days against weak LTs.

 

not all DEs have field days against weak LTs.

 

see what I did there?

 

I sure did!

 

Watch the tape vs. the better tackles he faced--Staley, even Kalil (who struggled a bit in 2014), and Jake Long (St. Louis).  That is what concerns me.  Not down on Hardy, just not convinced he is elite yet.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:54 AM

I sure did!

Watch the tape vs. the better tackles he faced--Staley, even Kalil (who struggled a bit in 2014), and Jake Long (St. Louis). That is what concerns me. Not down on Hardy, just not convinced he is elite yet.


I hate to be that guy who brings in the Pep comparisons but he was a guy that would work a probowler and get handled by a 3rd stringer or a rookie. I would wager there are more lesser OTs than elite ones and if I'm playing percentages I'd take Hardy destroying the weak LTs of which there are more of than Pep doing the same to the elite guys which there are less of.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 11:58 AM

I hate to be that guy who brings in the Pep comparisons but he was a guy that would work a probowler and get handled by a 3rd stringer or a rookie. I would wager there are more lesser OTs than elite ones and if I'm playing percentages I'd take Hardy destroying the weak LTs of which there are more of than Pep doing the same to the elite guys which there are less of.

 

You are right, and I think we had the same concerns with Pep.  And the lack of talent at LT is a real problem in the NFL.  Hardy did some of his damage from the inside, which makes him more valuable, in our system.  I just hate to see that much cap going to what we already have.  Do you think Hardy is elite--worth $12-14 million?  I am not there yet.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 12:11 PM

You are right, and I think we had the same concerns with Pep. And the lack of talent at LT is a real problem in the NFL. Hardy did some of his damage from the inside, which makes him more valuable, in our system. I just hate to see that much cap going to what we already have. Do you think Hardy is elite--worth $12-14 million? I am not there yet.


Elite is just a word that I don't put a lot of value in. The question is if we don't pay him who makes up those 15 sacks? It would be even worse with teams focussing on CJ cutting his production thereby creating a loss of up to 20 sacks from our stat sheet. Scary stuff my man. Sometimes you just have to pay the piper to keep from going down the shitter.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 12:35 PM

You are right, and I think we had the same concerns with Pep. And the lack of talent at LT is a real problem in the NFL. Hardy did some of his damage from the inside, which makes him more valuable, in our system. I just hate to see that much cap going to what we already have. Do you think Hardy is elite--worth $12-14 million? I am not there yet.

I think super young potential studs in Star and KK make his diversity to go inside less important in comparison to if we had Fua and McClain at DT


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