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Panthers Sign K Graham Gano to Four-Year Deal


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#121 Catalyst

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 03:08 PM

We also don't know the structure of this deal. It might not be as expensive as advertised if it's back-loaded and he's cut after 3 years.



#122 El Chingon

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 04:23 PM

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#123 TheRed

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 04:30 PM

There are actually people upset about this?



#124 El Chingon

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 05:03 PM

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@Panthers @GrahamGano congrats draino now you can pay me that 10 bucks you owe me!

 

 



#125 Cj72

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Posted 01 March 2014 - 11:28 PM

Hate it. Hate it. Hate it.

Kickers aren't consistent from year to year. That's just math, and you can view the evidence in the chart in this link. Since kickers aren't consistent from year to year, it's almost impossible for a kicker to live up to a long-term contract that pays above the league average. So now we're locked into a four year contract that will probably only be worth it for two of those years, and the Panthers current cap situation is a case study for how those deals can screw teams over.


Kasay wasn't consistent for the 15 or so years he was a panther?

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 10:56 AM

Agreed bro, if Gano sucks next year it's gonna be hard to swallow the $20 cap hit we'll have to absorb if we cut him on that monster $12 million deal.

 

Hard?  It'll be impossible.  With our current cap situation plus Cam's contract next year and Lukes the following... They've invested in Gano for the future.  Hopefully his success with us was the norm and not the anomaly.



#127 CelticCat

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 10:55 PM

Hate it. Hate it. Hate it.

 

Kickers aren't consistent from year to year. That's just math, and you can view the evidence in the chart in this link. Since kickers aren't consistent from year to year, it's almost impossible for a kicker to live up to a long-term contract that pays above the league average. So now we're locked into a four year contract that will probably only be worth it for two of those years, and the Panthers current cap situation is a case study for how those deals can screw teams over.

 

Horrible article, I get the idea and all but some of the examples given run contrary to the point he's trying to make.

 

For starters with the RB's, Marshawn Lynch has had two excellent years after 2011, Seattle are getting their moneys worth.

 

And then with the Prater example where he in fact kicked 4 game winners during the The Golden Calf of Bristol wins, not just a pair. He then went on to have two even better statistical years after that hitting 81% and 96% last year. Not to mention he doesn't seem to factor in blocked kicks which aren't always the kickers fault. Its more important that a kicker be clutch with the game on the line, early missed field goals can be forgiven if they nail the game winner when it counts, Prater and Vinateri do that.

 

We got Gano on the cheap like the article suggests, but do you let a kicker that excelled for you walk out the door? Sure he struggled in Wash some as a young kicker, but for us he has been a different guy altogether, 6 for 6 from 50+ when we paid similar for an aging Mare who could barely hit from 45. Not to mention his ability on kickoffs that previously killed our special teams in the past.

 

You can disagree with what kickers are making but when the game is on the line its a different story.



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Posted 03 March 2014 - 06:04 PM

Kasay wasn't consistent for the 15 or so years he was a panther?

No, he wasn't. There were four seasons where his field goal percentage went up or down by 10% from the previous year. Almost five--2008 to 2009 barely missed the cut. Kasay had some great years, but he still dealt with the variance that every other kicker does.



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 11:42 AM

It's a great point but remember one thing, we have to use the franchise tag for Greg Hardy.




Big fan of hardy but I was ready to move on from him ......( once somewhere I read he wanted more money then Charles Johnson )...... but more I look at it geno and panthers had a fair deal once the new tag number came out on kickers ... It's a win-win now .. Great sign ;)

#130 jarhead

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 11:45 AM

With the NFL strongly considering moving back the extra point the kicker just became more valuable.... 43 yard extra points will not be a given.



#131 El Chingon

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 04:12 PM

For those who think we overpaid: Pat McAfee just re-signed w/Colts who gave him a 5yr $14.5 million deal.




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