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2014 Draft Rumors Thread

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This thread is great, we could see how many rumors are true after the draft.

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by Colin Lindsay

GBN Editor and Publisher

April 29

There were some interesting comments from Houston owner Bob McNair over the weekend. McNair, whose Texans have the first pick overall at the next week’s draft, said that if the Texans selected QB with the top pick they would not make the same mistakes the team made with David Carr whom they started from day one after selecting him with the first pick in 2002. Carr never really developed in part because he was subjected to an inordinate number of hits as the QB for an expansion team. McNair did not go so far as to say the Texans would take a QB with their first pick, but it would certainly seem to appear that Houston is at least still considering taking one at that spot. In particular, there is almost no positive smoke to be blown by the Texans talking about taking a QB at #1; in fact, it is likely that drawing attention to their interest in a QB at that spot could actually make the #1 pick harder to trade as a team such as Atlanta that might be considering moving up to take South Carolina DE Jadeveon Clowney might start to think that they jus might not have to trade all the way up to the #1 slot to get the latter.

Cleveland G.M. Ray Farmer also had some interesting comments in his pre-draft press conference on Monday, although needless to say he left most analysts still wondering what the Browns plan to do with the 4th and 26th picks next week. Farmer, though, did raise a few eyebrows with his effusive praise of Clemson WR Sammy Watkins whom he described as “explosive … he’s got really good hands … he can run all the routes ... So saddle him on the opposite side of Josh Gordon and wow.” Indeed, Farmer went on to describe Watkins’ potential impact on the team as ‘ginormous!‘ In fact, Farmer gushed so much about Watkins that more than one observer speculated that maybe he was just trying to gin up interest from another team thinking about moving up to get Watkins. Farmer, though, was also generous in his evaluation of just about every other top prospect this year including OLB Khalil Mack, OTs Greg Robinson and Jake Matthews, WR Mike Evans and QBs Johnny Manziel and Blake Bortles. In particular, Farmer described the enigmatic Manziel as ‘exciting, electric and dynamic!‘ Farmer also talked about how much he valued mobility in his QB and Manziel is nothing if not mobile. Farmer closed his comments by saying that he knows which player he wants to take with the #4 pick, but added that he wasn’t sure he would not be taken with one of the first three picks. For the record, the players most often considered to be top 3 prospects are WR Watkins, LB Mack and OT Greg Robinson, along with South Carolina DE Jadeveon Clowney, if that makes it any clearer. 

While most observers see Detroit as perhaps the most likely team to move up into the top 5 to get one of this year’s blue chip prospects, Buffalo G.M. Doug Whaley indicated at his pre-draft presser late last week that the Bills, who pick 9th, one spot ahead of Detroit, might also consider trading up “if there’s a guy we think can get us to the playoffs.” And while Whaley wouldn‘t necessarily rule out taking a QB with their top pick, he made it pretty clear that the Bills‘ priority in this year‘s draft was to give incumbent starting QB E.J. Manuel every bit of help possible, presumably with a potential elite receiver or solid OT. Whaley also had a couple of interesting comments with a more general league-wide application. On the one hand, Whaley said that while the Bills already have a good LT in Cordy Glenn with so many defenses running exotic pass-rush schemes, that nowadays teams ‘need a right tackle as athletic as your left tackle” such that a RT would be good “value” at #9. Whaley also suggested that, because teams are now looking for athletic receivers who can stretch the field at TE, while their blocking skills are of lesser concern, that North Carolina TE Eric Ebron, whom the Bills will very likely seriously consider with 9th pick, is actually close to the prototype TE teams are looking for today.

While Clemson WR Sammy Watkins remains the consensus #1 wideout in this year’s draft, there is a buzz about that Texas A&M’s Mike Evans has closed the gap and that nobody should be surprised if Johnny Manziel’s former go-to guy is selected within the first 5-6 picks as teams are always in the market for big receivers who can run … There are also some rumblings that the odds are increasing that Pitt DT Aaron Donald and/or Alabama FS Hasean Clinton-Dix could be top 10 picks next week …  Meanwhile, in line with Buffalo G.M. Doug Whaley’s thoughts on the emerging value at RT, there has been a bit of a buzz about that no one should be surprised if Virginia OT Morgan Moses is selected in next week’s opening round. Not that buzz has grown to also include former Tennessee OT Ja’waun James as a potential late first rounder. Both are massive guys with huge wingspans who are simply a long way around, while they both also have reasonably active feet ... There have also been whispers that nobody should be shocked if Pitt QB Tom Savage is selected somewhere in the top 50 picks this year. And while he likely won’t go quite that high, it also appears a lot of teams looking for a developmental type QB are taking a second look at San Jose State’s David Fales.

And you thought the 40 was overrated !!! For years, the 40-yard dash, the bench press and the vertical leap have been standards by which NFL teams measure the athletic ability of potential draft prospects. However, that ‘drill’ that Jadeveon Clowney did with Atlanta last week may signal that sooner rather than later the NFL will be adopting some of the sports science athletic training and measurement techniques that are almost old-hat among so many other sports around the world. For the record, Clowney agreed to do an experimental biomechanical test with the Falcons in which a player moves around on a force plate which takes all sorts of precise measurements including their range of motion, how well they move, and how stable they are during that movement.

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The 49ers have so many picks at their arsenal and minimal holes..that's why it wouldn't be crazy to see them trade wayy up to grab Evans.  That's my crazy guess for the draft.  

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The 49ers have so many picks at their arsenal and minimal holes..that's why it wouldn't be crazy to see them trade wayy up to grab Evans.  That's my crazy guess for the draft.  

 

We mentioned SF a long time ago here for that same reason.

 

Why pick a dozen guys, half or more that won't even make your team?  Either trade out for future picks or move up and get guys that will make your team.

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It would be disgusting to see the Whiners land Evans! I would be pissed if they did.

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Lies, head fakes and misdirections.  It is that time of year.

 

 

April 30
  • (9:00 AM): Browns unlikely to start rookie QB … Speaking to reporters after the team’s first mini-camp practice session, Cleveland head coach Mike Pettine said that he hopes to avoid starting a rookie signal caller this coming season and that ideally the Browns would draft one later than the 4th overall pick. The Browns also have the 26th and 35th picks this year and have done their due diligence on the deep second tier of QB prospects for this year’s draft as well as the top guys. However, Pettine also stressed that the Browns would stay true to their board and would not rule out taking a QB with the 4th pick if he were their top-rated guy. What’s it all mean? Who knows. On the one hand, its possible that that is exactly what the Browns plan to do in next week’s first-round and Pettine is just preparing th Dawg Pound for a season with Brian Hoyer as the team’s starter. Its also possible, though, that the Browns would actually like to take a QB at #4 - say Johnny Manziel of Texas A&M QB Johnny Manziel - and are blowing a little smoke Houston’s way hoping perhaps that the Texans might figure they could trade down to the 6th spot with Atlanta and still get Manziel if the Browns went in another direction (and of course assuming that neither Jacksonville nor Oakland took him at #3 or #5 or some other didn‘t jump ahead of them.) Meanwhile, Peter King of Sports Illustrated is reporting that both the QB that both Houston and Cleveland may be after is Blake Bortles of Central Florida. At the same time, our old-friend Russ Lande of the National Post tweeted yesterday that a source had told him that Atlanta actually wants to trade up to the #1 spot to get Auburn OT Greg Robinson and not South Carolina DE Jadeveon Clowney. Seems like a reach that Atlanta would actually be willing to pony up what it would take to move up to the #1 pick to get an OT, especially when its like that the Falcons would get a shot at at least one of OTs Jake Matthews of Texas A&M or Michigan’s Taylor Lewan if they stayed at #6. There also isn’t much for Atlanta to gain by smoke screening who they would take if they did get up to #1. However, Houston would probably be very happy if St. Louis offered to flip-flop the 1st and 2nd picks if they were sold on Robinson for their first pick. And Todd McShay of ESPN is reporting that sources have told him that Buffalo would like to move ‘way up’ in the draft from the 9th pick to get either Clowney, Robinson or Clemson WR Sammy Watkins, who makes the most sense. Interesting that Robinson’s name has come up in both rumors which may indicate his stock is rising, although it was already pretty darn high!

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honestly the 9ers problem isn't receivers, it's lack of playmakers at the pass rusher/secondary position

 

they have Crabtree, Davis, and Boldin 

 

that should be enough firepower

 

let them trade up for Evans

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Dolphins know that Lewan, Robinson and Matthews are going to be gone and nobody else is worth the 19th pick as far as tackle

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