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  1. 1. What Camp are you in?

    • Sign Hardy to massive long-term contract
      18
    • Let Hardy play under Franchise Tag and work it out next year
      11
    • Trade Hardy for Cap space and Draft picks
      46
    • Pie- in Gettlemen I trust..
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Trading Greg Hardy could net two 1st round picks for the Panthers. No one can tell me that's not worth at least considering. Hardy is good but being able to have the cap space he's taking up AND that compensation in return? I'd take it, use the cap space to re-sign guys like Mitchell and Ginn, draft a DE with one of your 1st's and still have some money to get a LT or WR in FA. WIN.

I don't think there is a person on this forum who would not do that trade. Unfortunately there is not a GM in the NFL who'd do it either.

We are talking more around the lines of a 2nd this year and maybe a mid or late rounder next year. Which I would take. Get the cap space, plus two extra picks. Not bad. Of course, teams have done idiotic things in the past, so we might be able to get a first rounder. Who knows?!

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Trading Greg Hardy could net two 1st round picks for the Panthers. No one can tell me that's not worth at least considering. Hardy is good but being able to have the cap space he's taking up AND that compensation in return? I'd take it, use the cap space to re-sign guys like Mitchell and Ginn, draft a DE with one of your 1st's and still have some money to get a LT or WR in FA. WIN.

What compensation? How do you compensate for losing a top-5 proven pro-bowler at his position? You can't!

Name one player in this draft that's gonna be top-5 at his position coming into the season. You can't.

Wait until you see the contracts Ginn and Mitchell are gonna demand.

We could upgrade over both of those players in the draft and FA at the same salary that they were paid last season without giving up anything.

Unless we got in the top-10 picks, there's no guarantee we would get one of those coveted LT and there are no LTs in FA that are gonna be more than marginal over what we already have.

All you homer gamecock fans wanting to draft clown-face are embarrassing this fan base.

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Successful teams don't overpay players. They know when to replenish/replace. Hardy making $13.1 million is overpaying. That 12-4 last year was a huge surprise. In reality we are still treading water trying to get out of Hurney-hell. We should be stockpiling picks and getting our cap straight right now. This contract is going to force Godfrey back into the line up and we are hoping to protect our franchise QB with scraps or unproven talent and maybe an aging journeyman tackle

What are you talking about? Most teams overpay to keep their good players. Ecsecially when that player is a 26 year old elite pass rusher and great run defender. So your logic is to build through the draft, let them play out their rookie contracts and then let them go sign with another team to play out their prime years? How does that make sense? Name me 10 defensive ends better than Hardy and if you can please let me know how many of those teams decided not to pay them.

Ted Thompson may just be the best GM in football and he gave a huge contract to Sam Shields. That's just one of thousands of examples. I don't understand what that means good teams don't overpay to keep their players.

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Trading Greg Hardy could net two 1st round picks for the Panthers. No one can tell me that's not worth at least considering. Hardy is good but being able to have the cap space he's taking up AND that compensation in return? I'd take it, use the cap space to re-sign guys like Mitchell and Ginn, draft a DE with one of your 1st's and still have some money to get a LT or WR in FA. WIN.

Hardy would not net 2 first rounders

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What compensation? How do you compensate for losing a top-5 proven pro-bowler at his position? You can't!

Name one player in this draft that's gonna be top-5 at his position coming into the season. You can't.

 

You're not going to get an EXACT replacement for him, that's impossible.  But there's a solid chance Hardy plays next season on the franchise tag and Carolina lets him walk next year because they still won't have the money to sign him long term.  If you have a chance to get something for him before that happens, you should.

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But we have two making top dollar. Look I get the "keep strengths strong" argument. But we have a lot of holes to fill.

Yeah, when Hardy was tagged it did confuse me as to how we can pay for other needed help. I kind of think that either Gman thought he could trade Hardy for picks or he thinks he can work out a better contract. It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have CJ's bloated contract on the books. In reality we should have about 20 mil dedicated to the DE positions every year with younger developing options as backup's waiting to step in around contract time.

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Trading Greg Hardy could net two 1st round picks for the Panthers. No one can tell me that's not worth at least considering. Hardy is good but being able to have the cap space he's taking up AND that compensation in return? I'd take it, use the cap space to re-sign guys like Mitchell and Ginn, draft a DE with one of your 1st's and still have some money to get a LT or WR in FA. WIN.

In the land of hypotheticals you're right, but in reality it's not going to happen.

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Yeah, when Hardy was tagged it did confuse me as to how we can pay for other needed help. I kind of think that either Gman thought he could trade Hardy for picks or he thinks he can work out a better contract. It wouldn't be so bad if we didn't have CJ's bloated contract on the books. In reality we should have about 20 mil dedicated to the DE positions every year with younger developing options as backup's waiting to step in around contract time.

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These are exactly the points that worry me as well.

 

I am just nervous about having $30M (almost 1/4 of our cap space) tied up in the DE position when our CF, S, WR, and OT positions are in such need of upgrade.

 

I hope Gett knows what he is doing on this one.

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Team Locke. 

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These are exactly the points that worry me as well.

I am jsut nervous about having $30M (almost 1/4 of our cap space) tied up in the DE position when our CF, S, WR, and OT positions are in such need of upgrade.

I hope Gett knows what he is doing on this one.

I'm with you on that! I know he has a plan but I sure can't figure it out. Obviously he has intimate details on all the contracts the team has and has lots of alternatives that he can use to come up with money somehow. It does ease my mind that he is a great personnel evaluator and that he can bring in skilled players at bargain basement prices through FA and UDFA. I think most underestimate how important that is.

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If the Panthers can work out a long-term deal with Hardy, then we have no reason to want to trade him.

You chicken-littles are too worried about letting him go for nothing when we are gonna need every bit of his 14 sacks to get us back into the playoffs...which is what we should be expecting with or without Mitchell, Ginn and Gross.

I never ever, never ever, ever ever, never want any of our LTs present or future to have to go up against the Kraken. NEVER

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