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Poll: What Camp are you in? (103 member(s) have cast votes)

What Camp are you in?

  1. Sign Hardy to massive long-term contract (18 votes [17.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.48%

  2. Let Hardy play under Franchise Tag and work it out next year (11 votes [10.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.68%

  3. Trade Hardy for Cap space and Draft picks (46 votes [44.66%])

    Percentage of vote: 44.66%

  4. Pie- in Gettlemen I trust.. (28 votes [27.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.18%

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#16 TheNewStandard

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:40 AM

Draft geeks wanting more picks for their mock drafts...wtf

Anywhoo...Hardy would go #1 in this year's draft if he were being drafted this year, knowing what we know. Not only that but he was touted as the best FA going into the offseason, ranked above real MFL players who have actually been in the league!!!


Who is this all-pro defensive end monster that's coming after Cam this year that's on our schedule?

Which one of these stud LTs, coming out of the draft, are going to be shutting down all these monster DE's that are coming after Cam?

This site must be made up of redskin and Atlanta fans wishing we would trade our monster all-pro de so he doesn't go after their poor-wittle quatah-bayux

#17 NJPanthers12

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:41 AM

Gettleman has no offensive line at all. Not addressing the OL with serious intentions would be the single dumbest thing.


Who said anything about not addressing the o line? Kalil quite possibly is the best C in the league plus the team is very high on Amini and Chandler. They also like Chris Scott and obviously are intrigued with Kugs since they drafted him in the third round. They need help at both tackles. We still have all of free agency and the draft to figure it out.

Charles Johnson and Greg Olsen both have contracts that can be restructured. They are working to lower Hardys cap hit for this year. It is pretty obvious Steve Smith will be cut or take a pay cut. They could still free money by cutting Godfrey, DeAngelo, Dwan
Edwards, Pilares, Norman and josh Thomas.

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:43 AM

Band camp.

#19 Swaggasaurus

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:44 AM

I would like a trade obviously...unsure how likely that would be.



#20 TheNewStandard

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:49 AM

With Cams mobility an our power rushing attack finally healthy, we don't need to sacrifice our biggest strength (front 7 on the defense,) for band-aid, stop-gap players or rookies on the offensive line.

We've got sizeable and young linemen hungry for starting positions and the pay that will come along with it. They're already with the system and on The payroll. How do y'all know they can't start? You don't!!!

Why are they on the team if they can't play? You tellin me that we only have two starter-worthy players on the OL? BS

Here are the OLinemen on our roster

Byron Bell | Tackle
Age / DOB: (25) / 1/17/1989
Ht / Wt: 6'5' / 340

Travis Bond | Guard
Age / DOB: (23) / 12/10/1990
Ht / Wt: 6'7' / 330

Jeff Byers | Guard
Age / DOB: (28) / 9/7/1985
Ht / Wt: 6'4' / 310

Nate Chandler | Guard
Age / DOB: (24) / 6/1/1989
Ht / Wt: 6'4' / 310

Derek Dennis | Guard
Age / DOB: (25) / 7/16/1988
Ht / Wt: 6'3' / 315

Brian Folkerts | Center
Age / DOB: (24) / 1/30/1990
Ht / Wt: 6'4' / 305

Oscar Johnson | Guard
Age / DOB: (24) / 3/1/1990
Ht / Wt: 6'6' / 338

Edmund Kugbila | Guard
Age / DOB: (23) / 9/21/1990
Ht / Wt: 6'4' / 325

Amini Silatolu | Guard
Age / DOB: (25) / 9/16/1988
Ht / Wt: 6'4' / 315

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:54 AM

Trading hardy would be the single dumbest thing we could possibly do. The strength of this team is the d line and we are going to trade a 25 year d stud who led the team in sacks. Not only that but we are going go replace him with Mario Addison or frank Alexander.

Gettleman constantly talks about the trenches. The o line and d line. So why would we possibly mess with that? Yes mike Mitchell had a very good year last year and I want him back, but would he have been exposed more if our d line wasn't so dominating? We want to trade hardy and then take that money to brink back Mitchell and captain who proved just how good they were when we got no pressure on the QB for them in the playoffs. I will Take my chances with Hardy 100 out of 100 times and fortunately it looks like Gettleman agrees.

Successful teams don't overpay players. They know when to replenish/replace. Hardy making $13.1 million is overpaying. That 12-4 last year was a huge surprise. In reality we are still treading water trying to get out of Hurney-hell. We should be stockpiling picks and getting our cap straight right now. This contract is going to force Godfrey back into the line up and we are hoping to protect our franchise QB with scraps or unproven talent and maybe an aging journeyman tackle

#22 TheNewStandard

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:55 AM

13 mil for a top-5 DE is not overpaying.

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:56 AM

Trading Greg Hardy could net two 1st round picks for the Panthers.  No one can tell me that's not worth at least considering.  Hardy is good but being able to have the cap space he's taking up AND that compensation in return?  I'd take it, use the cap space to re-sign guys like Mitchell and Ginn, draft a DE with one of your 1st's and still have some money to get a LT or WR in FA.  WIN.



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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:58 AM

13 mil for a top-5 DE is not overpaying.


But we have two making top dollar. Look I get the "keep strengths strong" argument. But we have a lot of holes to fill.

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:01 AM

This is overpaying.

 

http://www.spotrac.c.../defensive-end/



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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:02 AM

Trading Greg Hardy could net two 1st round picks for the Panthers. No one can tell me that's not worth at least considering. Hardy is good but being able to have the cap space he's taking up AND that compensation in return? I'd take it, use the cap space to re-sign guys like Mitchell and Ginn, draft a DE with one of your 1st's and still have some money to get a LT or WR in FA. WIN.

I don't think there is a person on this forum who would not do that trade. Unfortunately there is not a GM in the NFL who'd do it either.

We are talking more around the lines of a 2nd this year and maybe a mid or late rounder next year. Which I would take. Get the cap space, plus two extra picks. Not bad. Of course, teams have done idiotic things in the past, so we might be able to get a first rounder. Who knows?!

#27 TheNewStandard

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:03 AM

Trading Greg Hardy could net two 1st round picks for the Panthers. No one can tell me that's not worth at least considering. Hardy is good but being able to have the cap space he's taking up AND that compensation in return? I'd take it, use the cap space to re-sign guys like Mitchell and Ginn, draft a DE with one of your 1st's and still have some money to get a LT or WR in FA. WIN.

What compensation? How do you compensate for losing a top-5 proven pro-bowler at his position? You can't!

Name one player in this draft that's gonna be top-5 at his position coming into the season. You can't.

Wait until you see the contracts Ginn and Mitchell are gonna demand.

We could upgrade over both of those players in the draft and FA at the same salary that they were paid last season without giving up anything.

Unless we got in the top-10 picks, there's no guarantee we would get one of those coveted LT and there are no LTs in FA that are gonna be more than marginal over what we already have.

All you homer gamecock fans wanting to draft clown-face are embarrassing this fan base.

#28 NJPanthers12

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:03 AM

Successful teams don't overpay players. They know when to replenish/replace. Hardy making $13.1 million is overpaying. That 12-4 last year was a huge surprise. In reality we are still treading water trying to get out of Hurney-hell. We should be stockpiling picks and getting our cap straight right now. This contract is going to force Godfrey back into the line up and we are hoping to protect our franchise QB with scraps or unproven talent and maybe an aging journeyman tackle


What are you talking about? Most teams overpay to keep their good players. Ecsecially when that player is a 26 year old elite pass rusher and great run defender. So your logic is to build through the draft, let them play out their rookie contracts and then let them go sign with another team to play out their prime years? How does that make sense? Name me 10 defensive ends better than Hardy and if you can please let me know how many of those teams decided not to pay them.

Ted Thompson may just be the best GM in football and he gave a huge contract to Sam Shields. That's just one of thousands of examples. I don't understand what that means good teams don't overpay to keep their players.

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:05 AM

Trading Greg Hardy could net two 1st round picks for the Panthers. No one can tell me that's not worth at least considering. Hardy is good but being able to have the cap space he's taking up AND that compensation in return? I'd take it, use the cap space to re-sign guys like Mitchell and Ginn, draft a DE with one of your 1st's and still have some money to get a LT or WR in FA. WIN.


Hardy would not net 2 first rounders

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:07 AM

What compensation? How do you compensate for losing a top-5 proven pro-bowler at his position? You can't!

Name one player in this draft that's gonna be top-5 at his position coming into the season. You can't.

 

You're not going to get an EXACT replacement for him, that's impossible.  But there's a solid chance Hardy plays next season on the franchise tag and Carolina lets him walk next year because they still won't have the money to sign him long term.  If you have a chance to get something for him before that happens, you should.




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