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Smith Perspective: A Voth-man prophecy

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And if it turns out we're just wasting another year and taking pieces away from our franchise QB instead of trying to help him?

you can't begin to make that assessment in March!

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He has been the one making the decisions for exactly one year.  The job requires more than building the team.  I was referring to the awkward way he handled the Smitty situation.  He needs to learn how to be more sensitive to the feelings of players and fans.  I think he will.  A first time GM, like a first time anything, is absolutely on a learning curve.

 

Not sure what many of us expected from a Yankee like Gettleman.  He's been brash and rude, but he gets results.  For any other player not named Steve Smith that would be okay.  He just shook up the hornets nest by stringing along the best player in franchise history.  The dude is 63? years old, by then you'd think you'd figure out how to have some tact.

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Not sure what many of us expected from a Yankee like Gettleman. He's been brash and rude, but he gets results. For any other player not named Steve Smith that would be okay. He just shook up the hornets nest by stringing along the best player in franchise history. The dude is 63? years old, by then you'd think you'd figure out how to have some tact.

Depends on whether or not you value tact, not everyone does.

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Not sure what many of us expected from a Yankee like Gettleman.  He's been brash and rude, but he gets results.  For any other player not named Steve Smith that would be okay.  He just shook up the hornets nest by stringing along the best player in franchise history.  The dude is 63? years old, by then you'd think you'd figure out how to have some tact.

 

 

 

I really resisted the urge to point out that he is a Yankee in a Carolina court.  I'm glad you did, because it really could be the case.

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Depends on whether or not you value tact, not everyone does.

 

Like I said, the way he does business is fine for 99% of the other players.  You don't need tact to cut a 2nd string linebacker.  But Steve Smith deserves better than the way his time in Carolina is ending, and Gettleman is solely to blame.  Whether he values tact or not, you need to know when to tread lightly.  Dangling the best player in franchise history as trade bait...especially one that has a history of punching people in the mouth...goes beyond lacking tact.  It's just plain stupid.

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I've had a couple conversations with Voth over the last few weeks and EVERY TIME he has been right on the money about this stuff. He is actually pretty cool because we have gone back and forth for 30 minutes at a time, and in that time he broke down exactly what was going to happen... and he did it two weeks ago.

Last statement I said to him (last night actually) was it would be naive to think that Getts had not been in contact with a FA or two over the last 3 days. Obviously he has a plan or this move wouldn't have been done. To which he basically replyed my logic had no place on Twitter or in other words. "BINGO"

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Depends on whether or not you value tact, not everyone does.

 

I still think we should have extended Cam before we handled this situation with Steve Smith the way that we did. My concern is how this will affect not only signing our own players, but future FA that we may try to bring in. Other players are seeing this unfold, not just fans.

 

This is a guy under contract. Our only receiver under contract. If we treat him this way, what does that say?

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Like I said, the way he does business is fine for 99% of the other players. You don't need tact to cut a 2nd string linebacker. But Steve Smith deserves better than the way his time in Carolina is ending, and Gettleman is solely to blame. Whether he values tact or not, you need to know when to tread lightly. Dangling the best player in franchise history as trade bait...especially one that has a history of punching people in the mouth...goes beyond lacking tact. It's just plain stupid.

I agree with needing more tact, but using him for a trade is a business decision, one that makes sense. I don't fault DG for trying to get some compensation for Smith, he still has to build a winning team.

I love Smith, but he forced DG's hand when he said he would NOT take a pay cut.

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I still think we should have extended Cam before we handled this situation with Steve Smith the way that we did. My concern is how this will affect not only signing our own players, but future FA that we may try to bring in. Other players are seeing this unfold, not just fans.

This is a guy under contract. Our only receiver under contract. If we treat him this way, what does that say?

You don't think the other players know it's a cut throat business? Of course they do, that's why they hold out, try to get everything they can while they can. I doubt very seriously this deters any FA's.

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You don't think the other players know it's a cut throat business? Of course they do, that's why they hold out, try to get everything they can while they can. I doubt very seriously this deters any FA's.

 

Generally players have more than one option that they can consider. If they can go to a contender, or come here, different things factor in. Most players want at least a somewhat long term commitment. Here we have a player under contract, and don't want to honor it.

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I agree with needing more tact, but using him for a trade is a business decision, one that makes sense. I don't fault DG for trying to get some compensation for Smith, he still has to build a winning team.

I love Smith, but he forced DG's hand when he said he would NOT take a pay cut.

 

I don't disagree with cutting or trading Smith, it's just the way it all went down.  Smith had to hear his time in Carolina might be up through social media.  Gettleman vaguely mentions in the past tense that Smith has had a great career at his only press conference.  He could have been clear with his intentions "We're considering parting ways with Steve Smith but we haven't made a final decision yet.  I plan to speak with Steve about it directly" would have been excellent.  At the very least "I have not yet spoken to Steve and I have no comment on the situation" would have sufficed.  Gettleman treated Smith like he was just another joe on the team which he is definitely not.  Cutting/trading him is one thing but not even showing him the respect of telling him directly he might be cut is pretty low.

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Generally players have more than one option that they can consider. If they can go to a contender, or come here, different things factor in. Most players want at least a somewhat long term commitment. Here we have a player under contract, and don't want to honor it.

 

 

I don't want to honor most of the contracts Hurney handed out, that included Delhomme as well.

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