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MadHatter    9,501

Public Relations Rule #1

 

NEVER say "no comment".  It leaves way too much room for speculation and implies lack of knowledge and/or understanding of the situation. 

 

IMO - it should have been handled by having the face to face conversation with Steve earlier in the off season.  THAT's what he deserved and earned - the right to an open and honest conversation prior to the public becoming aware.

 

You are absolutely correct on the "No Comment" statement......leaves too much to interpretation by the receiving party.  They can take it every way possible.

 

Actually the "everyone is being evaluated" is the correct answer to give for that question.....for every team.  A good manager is continuously evaluating their employees....as well they should.  And that means every employee.  No one should be beyond reproach.

 

I do think Gettleman was surprised when the follow-up question of "Is Smith also being evaluated".  However, saying yes was still the right answer.  Saying no sends a message that some players are not subject to the same evaluation process as others.

 

Would it have been better if Gett and Smitty had a conversation prior to the combine?  Absolutely

 

Do I think that Gett botched his answer to the question at the combine?  No

 

Should Smitty have made the comments on the radio that he did?  No

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FootballMaestro    2,500

I'm going to go ahead and say this, for all the people here now who talk about Hurney having a lot of yes men in the fan base. Many people seem to be doing the same for Gettleman. It is okay to disagree with some things he does. It doesn't mean I want him fired, or hate him.

How can you say 'Gettleman has a bunch of yes men' here, when everyone's embroiled in a ongoing Brouhaha/Big tussle here about Gettleman to begin with?

 

With all due respect: That makes no sense. 

 

Wasn't there a damn near one sided consensus on Hurney's ultimate suckage here??

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panfan32    145

To be blunt, I have never looked forward to the day SS retired. But I never thought I would see the day that SS may wear another uniform. It always hurts when your favorite player leave the team after so many great memories. But it is the nature of the game. And to see so many idiots out there (Media) with the assumptions on the situation is what drives me nuts the most.

 

The whole trade or release make little to now sense financially what so ever. The BS you see in the Media about SS being a problem in the leadership role is also a load of BS. He and Gross were given credit by the players for the speech they gave after the 1-3 start. But SS is an issue in a leadership role. WTFE.

 

So if its not about the money and its not about is leadership role, what is it about. Is it the fact that maybe he and Gette did not see eye to eye on something? I'm really struggling with this. My only hope is that if he does leave, that he signs with a team that has a real chance of going to the Super Bowl . I can see Fox going after him if they have a void to fill with Decker leaving.  I can see fox wanting one of his best player on the roster for a leadership role and a mentor to the young WR corps in Denver. To me this would be SS's best case scenario other than staying in Carolina. 

 

But as I tell my kids all the time, "Want in one hand and poo in the other, and see which one fills up first".

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jtm    241

Why is SS getting a free pass from fans for refusing to take a pay cut?

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FootballMaestro    2,500

Gettleman is the GM. Quite frankly I'm growing more, and more tired of this pity party for him. He isn't the one with his job in jeapordy.

 

Also, I don't think anyone here literally "hates" Gettleman, except maybe for a few silly people running around.

 

"Job in Jeopardy"?

 

Is that how you describe it? Here's what's wrong with that statement.

 

Do you realize how much money Steve Smith has made in comparison (and for how long) compared to Dave Gettleman?

 

Though players careers are short in comparison, I bet you Smith will make multiples of more money than what Gettlemen ever made, as DG has been a scout and behind the scenes guy for decades making relative peanuts in comparison to Smith. 

 

I can't believe you characterized it that way. So now who's having the "Pity Party" for whom?

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TheRed    17,990

How can you say 'Gettleman has a bunch of yes men' here, when everyone's embroiled in a ongoing Brouhaha/Big tussle here about Gettleman to begin with?

With all due respect: That makes no sense.

Wasn't there a damn near one sided consensus on Hurney's ultimate suckage here??

One sided consensus that he sucked? Not that I recall. Hurney had his detractors here, but many people praised him. There was quite a bit of celebration when we signed Deangelo Williams, and Jonathan Stewart to the contracts that everyone now complains to no end about these days.

There were people who blindly followed Hurney, and some seem to already be doing the same with Gettleman.

I disagree with some things Gettleman has done, that doesn't mean I don't want him to be our GM or something silly like that.

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TheRed    17,990

"Job in Jeopardy"?

Is that how you describe it? Here's what's wrong with that statement.

Do you realize how much money Steve Smith has made in comparison (and for how long) compared to Dave Gettleman?

Though players careers are short in comparison, I bet you Smith will make multiples of more money than what Gettlemen ever made, as DG has been a scout and behind the scenes guy for decades making relative peanuts in comparison to Smith.

I can't believe you characterized it that way. So now who's having the "Pity Party" for whom?

Please at least make an effort to understand a post if you are going to reply and attempt to be sarcastic about it. I didn't say anything about how much money either man is making. It's not about that.

Playing the game of football and putting your future on the line every time you go out there to play is a hell of a lot different than the management aspect. Both can be cut throat, but one injury can end a career for good, and the pay check that comes with it. Yes players make quite a bit of money obviously, but that doesn't last forever, and we have obviously seen many players go broke for various reasons. Let's also not forget the long term ramifications of playing in the NFL with the toll it takes on a player physically.

Yes Steve Smith's job is in jeapordy. He very well may retire before facing the choice of uprooting his family who has been settled and established here in the community for over a decade now to play with a new team short term with little to no guarantees.

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FootballMaestro    2,500

Please at least make an effort to understand a post if you are going to reply and attempt to be sarcastic about it. I didn't say anything about how much money either man is making. It's not about that.

Playing the game of football and putting your future on the line every time you go out there to play is a hell of a lot different than the management aspect. Both can be cut throat, but one injury can end a career for good, and the pay check that comes with it. Yes players make quite a bit of money obviously, but that doesn't last forever, and we have obviously seen many players go broke for various reasons. Let's also not forget the long term ramifications of playing in the NFL with the toll it takes on a player physically.

Yes Steve Smith's job is in jeapordy. He very well may retire before facing the choice of uprooting his family who has been settled and established here in the community for over a decade now to play with a new team short term with little to no guarantees.

 

It still sounds a bit melodramatic (for how you're explaining it now), as Steve Smith's in the twilight of his career. 

 

So yeah, his job may be "in jeopardy" out of fear of being cut, or not picked up for the same salary by another team. 

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