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When Has This Much Turnover Ever Resulted In a Successful Season?


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#1 Proudiddy

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:36 PM

You can bring up the Pats, but their core usually remains solid and their system is pretty easy to plug guys into. They are an aberration. They also collect draft picks like baseball cards.

We have lost 3 OL (2 starters so far) and Wharton considering it. We lost Mitchell. We are likely to let Ginn walk. And to put the icing on the cake, we are publicly humiliating and then releasing the guy who has been the face of the franchise for the last 13 years and is a guy who is a potential hall of famer. As far as Smitty goes, love him or hate him, but his tenacity defined us in our greatest runs and it sustained us to endure throughout our worst. Regardless of Gettleman's reasoning for the Smitty decision, tell me how this will equate to a carryover from last season?

Yes, you have to have some turnover to have sustained success in the NFL, but too much turnover and you end up like the Browns and Raiders. Not to mention, two of the biggest influences in the locker room over the last 12 years or so are now gone. All the other guys that are leaving that many huddlers are shrugging off made up the personality of this team last season as well.

And yes, we still have the draft and free agency to go through, but the point is, I don't recall many, if any, teams that suffered this much turnover AND got rid of their most popular player from the previous 10 seasons (I'm saying until Cam got here), and went on to sustain success - REGARDLESS of hiw we replace them. Bring in new vets and draft some rookies, the turnover is still evident and there is no sure-fire formula to ensure similar chemistry. That is a concern for eevery team going into every season, but much more so for teams who have gutted significant areas of their roster.

I'm not saying this is a imminent destiny for our team, but it's definitely something to think about going forward.

#2 Jackofalltrades

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:37 PM

4-12 here we come.

#3 ctrcat

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:43 PM

Who in sports history won three national championships in three years on three different teams? Still rather be a Panther fan than any other team right now.

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:43 PM

In Gettle we trust!


Relax guys it's only March 12th

Gettle got this.

Stop overreacting like a bunch of women, I'm glad you aren't making the decisions.

*Names teams who signed FA's and had a losing season*

#5 intangiblejohnny

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:45 PM

I'm trying to be rational but it's difficult to see how this disregard for impact players can possibly be good for the team going forward.

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:45 PM

Put the bottle down, we still have our stud front 7 in tact, and on offense, we have one of the best young QB's in the league.  We're still in better shape than Dallas, or even the Saints really who have a ton of cap issues and only made it worse by signing Jairus Byrd.  So, let it play out.  I'm bummed about losing Smitty, and still think Greg Hardy wasn't truly worth the franchise, but this is what we have and I think we can be as good next year as this.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:46 PM

Never. But we do still have Cam, Luke, Star, KK, Hardy, TD, Olsen, Kalil, etc. And even young guys who stepped up last year. Probably not 4-12, but maybe 8-8 or so. Depends how well we draft and fill our holes.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:49 PM

Quit propagating this slanderous propaganda that we've lost the core of our team. It's disrespectful to the actual core of this team.

#9 intangiblejohnny

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:51 PM

In Gettle we trust!


Relax guys it's only March 12th

Gettle got this.

Stop overreacting like a bunch of women, I'm glad you aren't making the decisions.


Why do you trust Gettleman so much? How do you know he's "got it"?

Why do people insist on treating people that question Gman (which is what a logical person would do) like over emotional football idiots?

I think some of you Gettophiles put a lot of unearned trust in Dave.

#10 PantherWake

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:54 PM

At this point we are an 8-8 team but it doesn't matter cause the season doesn't start today.....

 

 

Its starts in 6 months.

 

 



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:55 PM

How about the Panthers last year.

Our D line is in tact which was is the strength of this team.

Our offense and OLine was not good last year, so changes in this regard are welcomed. And silatolou and kug are back.

If we sign Nicks, the Smitty loss is negated. Nicks at 75% is better then Smitty at this point and many of us can't admit this.

#12 Lilsmitty09

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:56 PM

Are people forgetting about our defense? And the draft? And the fact that there's still hundreds of free agents out there? Our offense was ranked 28th last season....it wasn't great to begin with

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:56 PM

Its a good thing that the whiners on this board aren't out there on the field or in the FO. 

 

Nothing but a bunch of flapping vaginas on here



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:56 PM

Why do you trust Gettleman so much? How do you know he's "got it"?

Why do people insist on treating people that question Gman (which is what a logical person would do) like over emotional football idiots?

I think some of you Gettophiles put a lot of unearned trust in Dave.


I'm clearly making a mockery of people who are blindly following him.

#15 intangiblejohnny

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:57 PM

Put the bottle down, we still have our stud front 7 in tact, and on offense, we have one of the best young QB's in the league. We're still in better shape than Dallas, or even the Saints really who have a ton of cap issues and only made it worse by signing Jairus Byrd. So, let it play out. I'm bummed about losing Smitty, and still think Greg Hardy wasn't truly worth the franchise, but this is what we have and I think we can be as good next year as this.


It's not just about Smitty. It's about Mitchell, Senn, Ginn, and whoever comes next. In addition to the fact that we have very little offensive talent while Gettlemen seems to be getting rid of what talent we do have.

It's a bad look for the organization when players jump ship as fast as they can.


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