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Carolina Panthers A Big Bowl of Sanity

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Amen sister.
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The Smitty deal and the "appearance" of the Panthers not doing much led to the hysteria... but all in all, Zod is right.

 

I was not and am not pleased with how they handled the Smitty situation, mainly the PR side of it, not the fact that they released him, but what's done is done.

 

 

 

Now, having said that... if they sign Roman Harper, I won't like it.  I know, I know... good of the team and all that... I agree, but that guy is a dick and I can't cheer for him.

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Saying "Dave's got this," is as much (if not more) of a conjecture as saying he doesn't. What makes you so sure he's "got this"?

Don't get me wrong I think we will be okay. All that I'm saying is that Gettleman hasn't done anything yet, so it's really hard to act like he's "got this".
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Aside from that I do partially agree. Although I don't think Ginn was overpayed.

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This could have possibly made me feel better if I had not just read the ACC Tournament is moving to Brooklyn. Kill. Me. Now.

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agreed with most every thing, tho i don't wan to see godfrey play another down in a panthers uni, mainly because of the price tag not being worth the production. we can find at least equal talent for much cheaper. we need that money elsewhere.

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Thanks Zod, it was about time you made a statement like this. Many of us could have written the same, but most on here really only listen to folks like you. I can`t believe what was going on here the last three days and especially yesterday. We are three days into FA and most on here lose their mind, jump off the bandwagon, get nto GMans face and predict a top 5 pick in 2015. I hope this awful BS stops now and poeple learn to trust the guys that are in charge and know how to handle a NFL front office.

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Delete this topic! Your far too rational Zod haha.

I'd like to add to that, mitchell bought a new found attitude To the defence but also led the league for safeties in 18 missed tackles, he was solid but not worth what the steelers threw at him, he can be replaced imo by a 3rd or fourth round draft pick.

Munnerlyn had a good year probably his best as a panther, but again he's a nickel corner and can be replaced by a draftee or FA.

Jordan Gross is the toughest loss for me, whilst him and kalil were the only two elite players left for cam too work with he did lose a step but one more year out of him would of been huge for us to settle in his drafted replacment at RT.

Smitty is just a pure legend but for Cam to mature and evolve he had to hand over the reigns of this offense to Cam, so his departure is probably the best thing to have happend going forward, we also can take the hit now and not carry over a lot of dead money next year which has basically and unoticably killed the panthers FA plans this year with all the money carried over from beason etc.

Whilst it's going to take time I do think DG has a plan and it's longterm, he was part of 8 SB teams so he knows what it takes, I understand people are emotionally drained at the moment but that's why he's our GM because you have to make those decisions and disconnect! Fans just have to wait it out.
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This has been my position all along. I just haven't understood the crying over mediocre players signing else where. When you have 20+ UFAs you can expect some major turnover.

The biggest point Zod left out is...

We haven't signed any good FAs: false

We locked up arguably one of the top FA players when we tagged Hardy. Showing that our priority is to keep the young core together and continue to build.
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2013

His main contributions?

- Drafting Star, which anyone would of done in his spot.
- Signing Mitchell, Ginn, Mikell, Cole and Wharton. All of which are, or likely will be, gone.
- Not firing Rivera, a good move, so I'll give credit where it is due
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<deep breath - exhale>  

 

THANK YOU!!!

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agreed with most every thing, tho i don't wan to see godfrey play another down in a panthers uni, mainly because of the price tag not being worth the production. we can find at least equal talent for much cheaper. we need that money elsewhere.

 

 

But does it make sense to cut Godfrey and sign another S when he's already on the roster (serious question).  Would it be fair to let CG have a go at it behind our 7 and see if he can look better?  

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Now, having said that... if they sign Roman Harper, I won't like it.  I know, I know... good of the team and all that... I agree, but that guy is a dick and I can't cheer for him.

 

I agree 100% on Harper and I will never forget his late hit on Smitty. But I will change my mind as soon as his first pick six is in ;-). Time to look forward, not back...

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It's possible last year was a bit lucky for us without some stellar draft picks that gave us a chance to cover a soft secondary and anemic pass offense. This year we may increase some points per game but probably not 12 wins...but a step forward and with a younger team is the way to go. it will take a couple years to get out of this limiting cap issue but by going younger and bigger is exactly what we need.

 

and still have a great D and Newton will only get better..hell . we may even start to run again.....

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The one big caveat in all this is chemistry.Who ever they end up bringing in on offense, a chemistry must be developed along with trust to be efficient and find success.This will not hapoen over night and along with Shulas conservative play calling (which may be even more so with a bunch of rookies involved),don't expect this to happen very fast. It will up to the defense to carry the load again.

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What, no use of the word "fug" at least a dozen times?  What kind of thread is this?  Replacing "fug" with common sense and rational thought?  Get out of here

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Aside from that I do partially agree. Although I don't think Ginn was overpayed.

 

He was overpaid, however. 

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If we had handed out those contracts to Ginn, Mitchell and Captain it would have been a clear sign that NOTHING had changed from Hurney. 

 

Huddle- OMG Hurney is an idiot with his blind loyalty, he has doomed us to cap hell for shelling out huge deals to unnecessary players. 

 

Huddle- Dave Gettleman is a soul-less dick who hates the Panthers and is trying to intentionally burn it to the ground. 

 

logic != compute;

 

 

The moral of the story boys and girls is we have been a player in free agency, we signed the biggest free agent out there: Greg Hardy

 

I'd easily rather have Hardy than Ginn, Captain, and Mitchell. 

 

The only thing that has me confused is Charles Godfrey. I thought if he was designated a June 1st cut, we would clear 7 million off the books. I'll take average safety play (a la Roman Harper) and more money to sign Nicks/or an OT than 7 mill for Godfrey. 

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You'll have to excuse me if I don't feel like "relaxing".  For all we know Gettleman got lucky last year.  He caught lightning in a bottle with his one year free agents.  That doesn't guarantee he can do it again.  I'm not saying he can't.  But I'm not just going to assume he can.

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We haven't signed any good FAs: false

We locked up arguably one of the top FA players when we tagged Hardy. Showing that our priority is to keep the young core together and continue to build.

 

This is the truest, most sensible thing I've heard since FA began. We already signed arguably the best FA on the market this year. I was on the "sign him at all costs" although admittedly not appreciating what those costs would mean to our ability to resign other top FAs and current roster staples.

 

BUT Getts still has something to prove in this regard as well. He has to convert that franchise tag into a long-term contract. If Hardy proceeds to walk next year, and we spent 13 million on a Band-Aid at DE, I will be nonplussed. If Hardy leaves next year, then the gutting of sentimental favorites and our other 1-year-wonders (who could have become long-term stars) will have been for nothing.

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He was overpaid, however.

Eh, debatable. He was an average WR and a good #3 WR for us last season. 3.5 million a year sounds about right, especially when you can afford it.

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I see that Brian Folkerts played in 10 games this past year, in goal line situations and in ST. He doesn't look like a chump, at 6'4-310 and I wonder if he'll get a shot at competing for another position?

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