Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

OL Options in the Draft - a Semi-In-Depth Look

36 posts in this topic

Posted · Report post

Pretty sure the same thing was said about Otah after he hurt his knee.


I'd love to see a link saying with 100% accuracy he had an arthritic knee. Can you show me that?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

I'd love to see a link saying with 100% accuracy he had an arthritic knee. Can you show me that?

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000328001/article/cyrus-kouandjio-failing-club-physicals-at-combine

 

He met with the media a day after most of the offensive linemen in attendance held press sessions, which can often signal a snag in the medical evaluation. His arthritic knee is reportedly linked to a failed surgery.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24454237/nfl-combine-alabama-ot-kouandjio-falling-after-failed-physical

 

Literally the first two links on google.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Cam Fleming is better than a lot of them....Love the tenacity of B.Turner and Jackson

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Su'a-Filo only makes sense @ LG if they move Silatolu to LT/RT. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

If I had to guess where the OT/OG's in this draft get drafted:

 

1st Round

OT- Greg Robinson- Top 5 (Gone)

OT- Jake Matthews- Top 10 (Gone)

OT- Taylor Lewan- Top 10- Mid 1st (Gone)

OT/OG- Zack Martin- Mid 1st (Gone)

OG- Xavier Su'a Filo- Late 1st (Not a big enough need)

OT- Morgan Moses- Late 1st- Early 2nd (Maybe, would prefer a WR or S)

 

2nd Round

OT- Cyrus Kouandjio- Early 2nd (Maybe as long as the knee checks out, more upside than Moses imo)

OG- David Yankey- Early 2nd (Not a big enough need)

OT- Billy Turner- Mid 2nd (Hope he doesn't rise this high, would love to take him with our 2nd especially because I consider him a potential franchise LT)

OG- Gabe Jackson- Mid to late 2nd (Wouldn't mind taking him in the 2nd, my favorite OG in the draft, more of a RG)

OT/OG- Brandon Thomas- Late 2nd (Like Thomas as well, flexible enough to play LT or OG)

 

3rd Round

OT/OG- Joel Bitano- Late 2nd to Early 3rd (I like Bitano better as a OG wouldn't mind him)

OT- Jawann James- Late 2nd to Early 3rd (Projects only as a RT)

OT- Seantreal Henderson- Early 3rd (Highly overdrafted)

OT- Jack Mewhort- Mid 3rd (Not very athletic, meh pick but would be a steal in the 3rd)

OG- Dakota Dozier- Mid 3rd (I think he'll be a solid LG)

OT- Antonio Richardson- Mid to late 3rd (Nonathletic and has injury concerns, would grab if desperate in the 3rd)

OT- James Hurst- Mid to late 3rd (Wildcard, could go anywhere from the 2nd to the 5th. More of a LT)

OG- Cyril Richardson- Late 3rd (Wouldn't mind in the 3rd)

OT- Cameron Fleming- Late 3rd to early 4th (Solid RT in the 3rd)

 

Sleeper pick- Kadeem Edwards OG/ Tennessee State (5th round)

 

 

2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Awesome post Ruff I gave you pie. I think Moses will make a good left tackle. You said you were concerned with his lateral quickness.

I think he moved well for 6'6 332 or 335. He is down to 316 which is almost 20 pounds. That will help anyone's lateral quickness. Plus at 6'6 those long arms will make a difference in protecting the blind side.


I get your concern, but after we whiffed on the left tackle from Cincinnati I would prefer Moses over Byron Bell. Bell moving to the left would make me a nervous wreck.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

If I had to guess where the OT/OG's in this draft get drafted:

1st Round
OT- Greg Robinson- Top 5 (Gone)
OT- Jake Matthews- Top 10 (Gone)
OT- Taylor Lewan- Top 10- Mid 1st (Gone)
OT/OG- Zack Martin- Mid 1st (Gone)
OG- Xavier Su'a Filo- Late 1st (Not a big enough need)
OT- Morgan Moses- Late 1st- Early 2nd (Maybe, would prefer a WR or S)

2nd Round
OT- Cyrus Kouandjio- Early 2nd (Maybe as long as the knee checks out, more upside than Moses imo)
OG- David Yankey- Early 2nd (Not a big enough need)
OT- Billy Turner- Mid 2nd (Hope he doesn't rise this high, would love to take him with our 2nd especially because I consider him a potential franchise LT)
OG- Gabe Jackson- Mid to late 2nd (Wouldn't mind taking him in the 2nd, my favorite OG in the draft, more of a RG)
OT/OG- Brandon Thomas- Late 2nd (Like Thomas as well, flexible enough to play LT or OG)

3rd Round
OT/OG- Joel Bitano- Late 2nd to Early 3rd (I like Bitano better as a OG wouldn't mind him)
OT- Jawann James- Late 2nd to Early 3rd (Projects only as a RT)
OT- Seantreal Henderson- Early 3rd (Highly overdrafted)
OT- Jack Mewhort- Mid 3rd (Not very athletic, meh pick but would be a steal in the 3rd)
OG- Dakota Dozier- Mid 3rd (I think he'll be a solid LG)
OT- Antonio Richardson- Mid to late 3rd (Nonathletic and has injury concerns, would grab if desperate in the 3rd)
OT- James Hurst- Mid to late 3rd (Wildcard, could go anywhere from the 2nd to the 5th. More of a LT)
OG- Cyril Richardson- Late 3rd (Wouldn't mind in the 3rd)
OT- Cameron Fleming- Late 3rd to early 4th (Solid RT in the 3rd)

Sleeper pick- Kadeem Edwards OG/ Tennessee State (5th round)


Hey how do you feel about us going wide receiver in round 1 and offensive line in Round 2 and 3 ? For some reason I feel that would give us the best the best opportunity to be explosive on the offensive side of the ball.

Just curious because it looks as though you have dug deep into the line prospects.
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

I'm not saying it's a talent thing, especially if you would've read the blurb about him. But, Hurst is in a situation where his stock fell. And fell hard. I would rather have Billy Turner in the 2nd, than Hurst in the state he is in now.

I'll say that Hurst will still be there when we select in the 3rd. I'd be willing to bet on it.


Ruff I will pose the same question for you.
How do you feel about us going wide receiver in round 1 and offensive line in Round 2 and 3 ? I feel that would give us the best the best opportunity to be explosive on the offensive side.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Ruff I will pose the same question for you.
How do you feel about us going wide receiver in round 1 and offensive line in Round 2 and 3 ? I feel that would give us the best the best opportunity to be explosive on the offensive side.


I'd be more than happy to go WR in round 1. There's going to be talent there, whether it be Matthews (my favorite), OBJ, Benjamin, or other guys (I think cooks is gone by 20, and Lee isn't as good as advertised).

This draft is really deep on the offensive line. I think you can find awesome talent all the way from round 1 to round 7.
2 people like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

I watched brandon thomas when he played at clemson and no knock on him but I dont think he can handle playing LT. When playing against quality ends in college he didnt have the agility or balance to win the one on one matchups without help from RBs or TEs

"Smiling faces and beautiful places!" Charleston, SC

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

About Hurst--

Any player with LT ability is worth a second rounder.  Why would a temporary injury cause him to drop 3 rounds?  That is the same as Cyrus, who has a chronic condition. 

 

By being injured, Hurst missed the hoopla created by the draftniks n the press.  However, the pro scouts know the kid can play.  I will bet that he will be gone before we pick in the third round.

 

I also think the guy is player who is a student of the game and could play (taking his lumps) this year.  Watch him frustrate Clowney, then watch him vs. the rest of the ACC.

 

I have heard that he is RT only, but I disagree.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites