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This time Rivera talking generally on PFT. Reading the tea leaves: Don't look for much change offensively.

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I hate when it is referenced we rushes for 100+ yards in 15 games.

That makes it sound like we rush the ball well. It was just Cam largely making something weak look good on a stat sheet

 

Cam only rushed for 585yds of the 2,026yds which is 1/4 of the total production. The run game is going to be top 5 with a younger OL & healthy Stewart & Cam!. This will open up the passing game, along with the use of  2 TE set will increase the passing game production.  

 

I believe 2014 offense production is going be 2500yds rushing, 4,000yds+ passing & 50TD's.

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I wouldn't put it past Gettleman to double dip at O-linemen in rounds 1 and 2 if they are the BPA, but damn...we'd just have to be having a stroke of bad luck with every receiver that truly deserves a first round pick being gone for me to see that happening.  And, yes, it could happen.  I mean, do we pick Moses, Matthews or Benjamin if everyone else is gone? And if we don't reach for Benjamin or Matthews in the first, they probably aren't going to be there is the second.  

 

I can see the scenario where Martavis Bryant and Brandon Coleman would be the picks in rounds 3 or 4, after picking Moses in the first round and James or Turner in the second.  I would actually be OK with it, not that it would be my first choice.  Pick up keith McGill in four or 5 and Colt Lyerla in 5 or 6 (or Perhaps Marcel Jensen), and I would have a hard time complaining.  We'd just have to try and pick up some more WR depth in FA after some cuts.

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"If you minus player X from"... is a silly argument. Cam is part of the run game. If you remove any productive player's stats that team will suddenly be near the bottom.

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You would be better off not worrying so much about total yardage and focus more on our efficiency and record.

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You would be better off not worrying so much about total yardage and focus more on our efficiency and record.

 

A QB who is for all practical purposes the main rusher skews the numbers, and is somewhat of a red herring.  

 

Just my opinion, but offensive efficiency should not be predicated upon your QB running around for his life, and then having to take off for yards. Sure, your record may be good enough to get you into the playoffs, but it probably won't get you a championship as you'll run into a team that can stop your QB from taking the game over with his legs, as well as the running backs, and force the same QB to beat you from the pocket.  

 

And you had better be prepared for that scenario.

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"If you minus player X from"... is a silly argument. Cam is part of the run game. If you remove any productive player's stats that team will suddenly be near the bottom.

 

we really shouldn't expect our QB to outrun our RBs every season..  that's just bad business.

 

And so I think portraying 100+ yards rushing when 60+% comes from our QB in the form of busted passing plays (or protection) is a valid point when it's being passed off as an intentional run game..

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the bottom line is they want results from that backfield investment... 

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Some of you are forgetting designed run plays for Cam, not just busted plays.

I do think teeray's main point about looking at efficiency as the best metric to gauge an offense is correct

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Regarding the rushing totals.

For a comparison, Russell Wilson had 539 yards rushing last season, Cam Newton had 585.

Though the offenses are similar in some ways, Wilson lead his team in rushing for only one game, and he actually ended up splitting that lead with Marshawn Lynch, as both rushed for 102 yards. Wilson also only accounted for 1 rushing touchdown all season. Compare that with Cam Newton who lead his team in rushing a total of 6 games, and accounted for 6 touchdowns on the ground for the season.

We've got to get our quarterback some help. Cam is a beast, but he can't keep putting the entire offense on his back, nor should he have to. Enough is enough.

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I hate when it is referenced we rushes for 100+ yards in 15 games.

That makes it sound like we rush the ball well. It was just Cam largely making something weak look good on a stat sheet

*sighs reluctantly*

I agree with CRA.

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A run heavy offense compliments our dominant defense. A pass happy offense will wear them out, whether it's because we're scoring quickly or having a bad day.

Seattle's offense was just as conservative, if not more, than ours. They played the most prolific offense & QB in NFL history in the Super Bowl. And they beat the ever living dog poo out of them.

Leave the pass happy poo for fantasy football. Beef up that o-line & watch D-Will, Stewart, Tolbert, & Newton run a train thru everybody.

 

I don't understand this kind of thinking at all. We are trying to improve all aspects of our team. You don't think Seattle is trying to improve too? They traded for Harvin last year. Having a better offense with better WRs is not something we should be shying away from. Having better production from the WRs does not mean it will limit our defense.

 

I know this is not college but FSU and Alabama won National Championships by building the best possible teams. period. They tried not to have a weakness anywhere on the field. This is the best way to build a team.

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I hope we don't end up losing Cam by trying to force a Ferrari to play the role of the family station wagon. I know his deal isn't up and that we can franchise him, but ultimately I don't think you keep a QB as talented as him happy in a conservative ball control offense.

Exactly. I have no problem with us being a run first team, but when we do pass...it shouldn't be dink and dunk and heavy use of screens etc (not that screens don't have their place). Get Alex Smith to do that. We have the most physically gifted QB in the NFL...we should take advantage of it.

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