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#16 Catalyst

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 04:58 PM

I don't care about Cyrus' knee. I just don't like him as a prospect. Typical overrated Alabama draft prospect.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 06:58 PM

I don't see how Cyrus' knee can be considered 'fine'. It's an arthritic knee, even if he's OK for the first few years, doctors have said that it'll be a problem down the road. You can't just look at the immediate situation and hope he passes some physicals. No -- this is a long term, degenerating problem. Do not want.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 07:03 PM

^^ I think the FO and doctors know that. So if they are ok with Cyrus I am ok with Cyrus. 

 

With that said I think best case for us would be

 

OBJ 

Turner

Fleming

Long athletic physical CB



#19 micnificent28

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 07:46 PM

God no. If gettleman does this cam should leave.

#20 Jackofalltrades

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 08:02 PM

God no. If gettleman does this cam should leave.


Better protection for Cam would drive him away?

Solid logic.

#21 cardiackat88.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 08:27 PM

BPA

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 09:26 PM

Better protection for Cam would drive him away?

Solid logic.


Better protection which arguably isn't as bad as the weapons he needs to be successful. We lost gross thats about it. Amini and kug return which leaves only a need at lt. Every wr left that is worth mentioning and even before then were subpar. This team has handled a franchise qb worse than any I've ever seen. Look at how teams build around franchise qbs when they draft them.

What Indianapolis did for luck. He didnt have to wait 6 years into his career to draft one weapon for him to pass to. I think cam can be a hall of fame qb but how this front office goes about helping him reach that goal is embarrassing.

#23 Jackofalltrades

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 09:28 PM

Games are won and lost at the line of scrimmage, I'll never complain about strengthening the most vital group on the field.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 09:32 PM

We dont need another Otah if the player isnt 100% dont draft him



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 09:45 PM

No to Cyrus in 1. Martin and Turner...hell yeah...Lewan and Turner....hell yeah....Plug Gabe Jackson as guard or Hurst in round 2 as well if you want.

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 12:34 AM

Games are won and lost at the line of scrimmage, I'll never complain about strengthening the most vital group on the field.

 

This. 

 

Our line was not that good last year. We lost our LT, which is one of the most important positions in football. On top of that our RT is complete trash. 

 

Trenches > Wideouts & Secondary



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Posted 28 March 2014 - 01:15 AM

This.

Our line was not that good last year. We lost our LT, which is one of the most important positions in football. On top of that our RT is complete trash.

Trenches > Wideouts & Secondary

Most important doesn't mean go full retard and think because you have a good offensive line you win. Its more to it than just that. If that was the case there would be no need to pay wrs and te's big bucks. I'm starting to se an evolution in the league where it is becoming a passing league. With that said ol isn't as important to a qb like cam who can extend plays and make your line look better than it is. Get the man some weapons.

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 07:33 AM

Most important doesn't mean go full retard and think because you have a good offensive line you win. Its more to it than just that. If that was the case there would be no need to pay wrs and te's big bucks. I'm starting to se an evolution in the league where it is becoming a passing league. With that said ol isn't as important to a qb like cam who can extend plays and make your line look better than it is. Get the man some weapons.


You're about 5 years late on that observation, but welcome to the party. But about that; the league is a passing oriented league, but we are going back to a ball control offense that relies on the ground game.

OL is what makes a rushing attack. OL is what allows your receivers to get open, OL is what keeps people away from Cam's surgically repaired ankle.

Seattle and Atlanta are two good example. Seattle had pedestrian receivers, but because Russell has one of the best OL's in the NFL he could wait for the routes to develop and allow the receivers to come open.

Atlanta has as much talent at the skill positions as anyone, but their neglect of the OL saw their O come to a screeching halt. Jackson couldn't run and Ryan didn't have the time in the pocket to throw the ball, even on shorter routes.

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 07:33 AM

Weapons won't do you any good if you don't have time and can't run the ball. 

 

Football starts from the inside out. Games are won and lost in the trenches. 

 

 



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Posted 28 March 2014 - 07:37 AM

You're about 5 years late on that observation, but welcome to the party. But about that; the league is a passing oriented league, but we are going back to a ball control offense that relies on the ground game.

OL is what makes a rushing attack. OL is what allows your receivers to get open, OL is what keeps people away from Cam's surgically repaired ankle.

Seattle and Atlanta are two good example. Seattle had pedestrian receivers, but because Russell has one of the best OL's in the NFL he could wait for the routes to develop and allow the receivers to come open.

Atlanta has as much talent at the skill positions as anyone, but their neglect of the OL saw their O come to a screeching halt. Jackson couldn't run and Ryan didn't have the time in the pocket to throw the ball, even on shorter routes.

 

The offensive line does not allow receivers to get open, that's a myth at best. I played receiver from grade school to high school, and me getting open had nothing to do with what the offensive lineman on my team were doing. You can't get handled off the line, then be blanketed, then deal with over the top help and somehow run through your route and scramble open. It doesn't happen. Sometimes you can find a hole, but that's happening on a consistent basis. You have to beat your man, simple and plain.




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