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#31 NFLFangirl19

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 12:51 AM

Cam Newton made Ted Ginn relevant enough to get a three year deal one season after having two catches. Think about that when you fret about these receivers.

Ted made HIMSELF relevant w/ his kick return game a lot more than his receiving game.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 01:29 AM

Put money on it.

I bet there will be a 4th round starter at WR in this draft.

I bet $100 there will be 12 day 1 starters at WR from this draft.

You willing to take that??

You know Day 1 is only the first round, right?

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 01:41 AM

I only see us going WR once in the first three rounds. Many with go full GrrBeck, and not saying my pov is right, but if you oppose me, just try and think about it this way.. ive said this in several posts lol

 

 

We feature our defense. our defense is top notch, and will only become better because of the youth and continuity with Rivera. "Make our strnegths stronger". what helps a defense? an offense that is consistent, sustains drives, scores every posesson while still eating up the clock. EFFECIANT. <---- key word. we can still have a good offense without scoring every 30 seconds. some of you guys want that flash, kick ass, fast paced offense (stats). If thats what you want, then so be it, but to trash our GM for making these moves is retarded. heres why:

 

the recievers we had last year might of hindered what our offense was trying to do. Two WRs with dropsies, and an older HOF WR that was a shell of himself. wana overpay to keep em? or do would you rather bring in players who are more conistant, with hands, with toughness, that run good routes to help our offense be more consistant for much much cheaper?? ill take that any day! The guys we brought in are RELIABLE options for Cam that will be where they are supposed to be and catch what comes at them. they will help with conversions and sustain the drives we need to keep the defense off the field.

 

 

a tangent, if you dont read anything else, please:

 

For all we know, gettleman could be an aceboogie, who wants that high flying, score every 30 seconds type of guy. 1) Our current staff just went 12-4, running a conservative, defensive scheme overall. would you want an ignorant GM that says, "Yeah, fug that. im bringing in MY TYPE of guys, regardless of what you are trying to do!" or a GM who works with the coach and brings in players that will work with the current scheme.

 

That is why i think it is just completly ignoranty and reactionary to peg gettleman as this or that. We can only speculate after one season, where he had pretty much everyone pre installed, without him making many changes. We have a very, very little understanding of what gettleman is truley about...

 

 

back to the cardiovascular system. end of my 2AM rant break.

 

 



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 01:43 AM

You know Day 1 is only the first round, right?

 

dude.. day 1

 

week 1

 

game one

 

doesnt take time to turn into a starter

 

immediate rookie starter

 

right?



#35 Alverez

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 03:22 AM

I'm just wait'n to see how things turn out.

 

I have faith that we'll be better than more expect. but I'm not expecting Super Bowl worthy.

Holding steady while righting the financial ship is the goal... and I think we could very well achieve that.

 

Here's hope'n.



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 06:47 AM

I only see us going WR once in the first three rounds. Many with go full GrrBeck, and not saying my pov is right, but if you oppose me, just try and think about it this way.. ive said this in several posts lol


We feature our defense. our defense is top notch, and will only become better because of the youth and continuity with Rivera. "Make our strnegths stronger". what helps a defense? an offense that is consistent, sustains drives, scores every posesson while still eating up the clock. EFFECIANT. <---- key word. we can still have a good offense without scoring every 30 seconds. some of you guys want that flash, kick ass, fast paced offense (stats). If thats what you want, then so be it, but to trash our GM for making these moves is retarded. heres why:

the recievers we had last year might of hindered what our offense was trying to do. Two WRs with dropsies, and an older HOF WR that was a shell of himself. wana overpay to keep em? or do would you rather bring in players who are more conistant, with hands, with toughness, that run good routes to help our offense be more consistant for much much cheaper?? ill take that any day! The guys we brought in are RELIABLE options for Cam that will be where they are supposed to be and catch what comes at them. they will help with conversions and sustain the drives we need to keep the defense off the field.


a tangent, if you dont read anything else, please:

For all we know, gettleman could be an aceboogie, who wants that high flying, score every 30 seconds type of guy. 1) Our current staff just went 12-4, running a conservative, defensive scheme overall. would you want an ignorant GM that says, "Yeah, fug that. im bringing in MY TYPE of guys, regardless of what you are trying to do!" or a GM who works with the coach and brings in players that will work with the current scheme.

That is why i think it is just completly ignoranty and reactionary to peg gettleman as this or that. We can only speculate after one season, where he had pretty much everyone pre installed, without him making many changes. We have a very, very little understanding of what gettleman is truley about...


back to the cardiovascular system. end of my 2AM rant break.


I think Gettelmen double dips at the Wr's spot.

1. He signed older vets to short deals not long term solution.
2. He takes what the draft gives him and WR is the deepest position this year.
3. He is ready to overhaul the position and give Cam weapons to grow with. And Gettelmen loves continuity.
4. Drafting WR is cheaper then signing new ones every year.
5. We had the 26th ranked passing attack. He wants to improve that.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 07:48 AM

I think Gettelmen double dips at the Wr's spot.

1. He signed older vets to short deals not long term solution.
2. He takes what the draft gives him and WR is the deepest position this year.
3. He is ready to overhaul the position and give Cam weapons to grow with. And Gettelmen loves continuity.
4. Drafting WR is cheaper then signing new ones every year.
5. We had the 26th ranked passing attack. He wants to improve that.

fair enough. I like your first point the best.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:37 AM

Put money on it.

I bet there will be a 4th round starter at WR in this draft.

I bet $100 there will be 12 day 1 starters at WR from this draft.

You willing to take that??

I'll take that bet.


There will not even be 12 receivers drafted in the first round (day 1)

I have no problems taking.money from the ignorant.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:44 AM

I'll take that bet.


There will not even be 12 receivers drafted in the first round (day 1)

I have no problems taking.money from the ignorant.


No the bet isn't Wr's drafted in the 1st round. It's 12 Wr being day 1 starters from this draft.
So ignorant is thinking day 1 starters only come from the 1st round.

To explain this better (for you) if 12 Wr from this draft start in the 1st game of the season. You will be sending money to my pay pal account.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 08:52 AM

Ted made HIMSELF relevant w/ his kick return game a lot more than his receiving game.


Not really, it was his role in the pass game that got him noticed.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:03 AM

I'll take that bet.


There will not even be 12 receivers drafted in the first round (day 1)

I have no problems taking.money from the ignorant.

 

 

And before you take this bet Claw. A little info for you.

There were 9 to 10 rookie WR's who started last year (from a weak WR class) day 1 of the regular season. And Any WR who made the top 3 WR spots is considered a starter.

Hopkins

Allen

Hunter

Patterson

Dabson

Austin

Kembrell Topkins

Robert woods 

Marlon Brown

Terrance Williams

 

All these guys I'm sure started on there teams day 1 of the regular season. Again in a weak WR draft not like this year. Which is the best and deepest in decades.

 

Kenny Stills (not sure if he started day 1 thoe)

Bailey (not sure if he started day 1)

 

Are you sure you want to take this bet?



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:07 AM

You honestly think 12 receivers will even be drafted in the first round of the draft?

You're the one who needs to be thinking here.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:09 AM

You know Day 1 is only the first round, right?

No...........

 

Marcus Colston was a day 1 starter and he was a 7th round pick.

 

Keenan Allen started day 1 and he was a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

 

It depends on the team situation the rookie is on not where they were drafted.



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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:12 AM

Misunderstanding.

Thought ya meant day one of the draft.
Not the season.

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Posted 08 April 2014 - 09:13 AM

You honestly think 12 receivers will even be drafted in the first round of the draft?

You're the one who needs to be thinking here.

 

 

Again let me point this out to you.

 

No the bet isn't Wr's drafted in the 1st round. It's 12 Wr being day 1 starters from this draft. 
So ignorant is thinking day 1 starters only come from the 1st round.

 

I'm not betting how many Wr's will be drafted in the 1st round. I'm betting how many WR's (from this draft) will start game 1 of the regular season. UDFA included.

 

Do you understand??




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