- You're formatting of an argument is horrible. I'm idiot for taking a two year sample size of LU/ECU baseball and you're a genius for forming an argument based on a two year sample size of UNC/ECU athletic competition... pot meet kettle.
- As for the baseball/basketball comparison, that's bull and you know it. A weight is put on conference games when it comes to the committee. Even the baseball writers of America, perfect game, and baseball America has said that plenty of times. You're obviously in denial.
- Also my fault for not remembering that all of these smaller schools are trying to jump ship to different conferences. It's not my job to keep up with ECU. However I do remember you guys finishing second in the mighty CUSA last year. Which is not even remotely close to being on the same level as the ACC. You're top tier teams are decent, your bottom tier teams are garbage. Heck, UNC would have put up triple digits on ODU if it wasn't for the fact that they decided to shorten the fourth quarter to 10 minutes and use a running clock. But hey, let your butt-Pirate homerism consume you.
- As for UNC, I'd rather see the team have high expectations and fail then have mediocre expectations and succeed. You see, in athletics.... we set goals. What do you expect UNC fans to say, we think we'll go 6-6 this year? What kind of idiocy is that.
- Finally I don't care what you did with your Liberty scholarship because with mine I've had the opportunity to do what I love and work with multiple athletic teams in all sports (college and professional).
- But hey, Go Butt-Pirates Arghhhh
- Oh and at least Liberty dominates their conference..... in everything (a year ago we were tied with Stanford for the most conference championships with 9). Unlike ECU.
I wanted to sit down and preach some knowledge instead of using my phone in hopes that this one will end our little conversation.
I don't think you are talking about the formatting of my argument, bud. Unless you're talking about arrangement, margins and font size, you've chosen the wrong word. Perhaps you mean the basis of my argument? I'm not comparing 2-year stretches and anyone that's ever had a conversation about this knows that these things have streched over decades. Just because the only piece of evidence that I used was a football game in 2013 doesn't mean that I'm simply referencing the past 2 years. You, however, are referencing the past 2 years in a Liberty vs. East Carolina baseball debate? I mean, it's a stupid sample size, and it just makes no sense.
I called you an idiot for not correctly knowing what conference ECU is in despite you basing your argument completely around conferences. I'm the kind of guy that likes to go into conversations knowing what the hell I'm talking about, not the kind of guy that wants to be Mr. "Oh why should I give a f*ck". Well, you should care because look what you're doing right now. Yes, ECU changed conference and yes, it's a far better conference.
I'm really not in denial. Of course the aces don't come out to play until the weekend, but you act like we're playing 2 completely different teams here, and you know for fact that that just isn't true. ECU just had a pitcher taken 9th overall in the draft, man. We take a hit by not having our weekend pitchers out there too during the week. Despite not having the 1,2, or 3 pitchers, those games do showcase the majority of a team's talent. And yes, they do matter to the committee when comparing teams that have qualified (JUST LIKE IN BASKETBALL, it's still all about the conference in basketball too)
You need to understand what I'm saying about CUSA because you didn't read what I said. I said, that up until last year, from about 1995-2012 (before all of the schools jumped to the AAC), CUSA's football TALENT, top to bottom, was comprable to that of the ACC. The branding power of the ACC can be blinding, and I'm not even saying that's a bad thing I have no problem with it, it's perfectly fine. I am, however, saying that chools like Louisville, Cincinnatti, Central Florida, Houston, East Carolina, and TCU all built their programs in CUSA. Basketball wise, DePaul, Marquette, St. Louis, and Memphis built their programs in CUSA. It was, before your time of fandom clearly, a really talent-filled conference. Then the Big East was purged by the ACC and in turn the Big East purged CUSA (similar to what happened in 2012 with the ACC/Big 10 and the American).
ECU won 10 conference championships during its time in CUSA, and they joined CUSA 10 years after Liberty joined the Big South so uh what? Just...no...shut up. They also dominated the CAA before joining CUSA..so that ones just null and void bud. I'm glad, though, that you enjoy what you do and you took advantage of an academic scholarship.
And I'm just not entirely sure what you mean by mediocre expectations. East Carolina plans to win conference championships and go to the NCAA tournament (in every sport but basketball, ha) every year. And they have consistently accomplished those goals.
I really am not arguing this whole which is a better athletic program, UNC or ECU. Give me a break guys. Like the dude said, you guys have 40 some national titles. THAT is not the argument at hand, never was and never will be. The argument at hand is that ECU IS a good athletic program, it's done a high holy hell of a lot with not very much money or opportunity from the UNC system (until very recently). This whole idea of playing UNC being our "super bowl" and the unnecessary knocking of the athletic programs. I mean get over yourselves. We've got a good fanbase, we have winning programs, we are a large scale athletic program, we consistently win or are competitive out of conference against Power 5 conferences in football.
We've done well for ourselves in a very short period of time. ECU is a fairly new as a university, not becoming one until 1967. For it to be in the position that it is size wise, in terms of academic accomplishment (which is better than the age old reputation), the facilities on campus, and the growth and nationwide respectability of the medical school. For god sakes, our first round of wealthy graduates in business and medicine are just now retiring for the most part. First group! It's a crazy thought. Then looking at athletics, you guys were winning national titles when ECU was still an all-women's teachers college, I mean give me a break. We've done well and done it quickly. That's why ECU fans are very quick to jump into this argument.
Edited by PiratePanther189, 18 July 2014 - 09:33 AM.