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#31 gettlemanjack

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 05:53 PM

Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin will be selected between the No. 12 and 20 picks, according to one NFL scout.
"He really came on the scene this year. He can extend to make a lot of grabs. His route-running is raw," the scout added.

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 06:06 PM

NFL Media analyst Charles Davis:
"Mike Evans and Kelvin Benjamin are, in a lot of ways, the same guy," Davis told 93.7 The Fan.

NFL Films' Greg Cosell prefers Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin to Texas A&M's Mike Evans.
"I thought that he had a little more natural quickness and athleticism than Evans," Cosell said. "I thought that Benjamin brought a lot of the same attributes to the table as Evans, but I thought he was just a little more athletic." Cosell believes Benjamin runs faster than his 40 time.
"You want to see a burst when the ball is in the air," Cosell said, mentioning Jerry Rice as one example of a WR who ran a 4.6-second 40-yard dash in shorts but appeared far faster once donned in pads.

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 06:39 PM

ESPN's Kevin Weidl called Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin's tape against Florida "absolutely dominant."
"Showcased his entire skill set," Weidl wrote. "He's a power forward in pads."
Benjamin lit up the Gators' defense for 212 yards and three touchdowns on nine catches

Florida's pass D last season:
#2 in NCAA, #1 in SEC - fewest passing TDs allowed
#5 in NCAA, #1 in SEC - lowest comp pct allowed
#7 in NCAA, #1 in SEC - fewest passing ypg allowed
#8 in NCAA, #1 in SEC - pass efficiency D

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 06:50 PM

Deangelo Williams is still shocked.

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 06:52 PM

When watching Benjamin's game tape I felt the best WR on the field wasn't him but Rashad Greene.

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 06:57 PM

It's funny that people knock Benjamin for maybe skipping a private workout but the big story right now is how all these private workouts are really tiring out these prospects. Just something to chew on.

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 07:06 PM

CBS Sports' Bruce Feldman:
"Benjamin will make personnel folks' chins hit the floor when they first see him"

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 07:21 PM

Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin will be selected between the No. 12 and 20 picks, according to one NFL scout.
"He really came on the scene this year. He can extend to make a lot of grabs. His route-running is raw," the scout added.

 

 

NFL Films' Greg Cosell prefers Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin to Texas A&M's Mike Evans.
"I thought that he had a little more natural quickness and athleticism than Evans," Cosell said. "I thought that Benjamin brought a lot of the same attributes to the table as Evans, but I thought he was just a little more athletic." Cosell believes Benjamin runs faster than his 40 time.
"You want to see a burst when the ball is in the air," Cosell said, mentioning Jerry Rice as one example of a WR who ran a 4.6-second 40-yard dash in shorts but appeared far faster once donned in pads.

 

 

ESPN's Kevin Weidl called Florida State WR Kelvin Benjamin's tape against Florida "absolutely dominant."
"Showcased his entire skill set," Weidl wrote. "He's a power forward in pads."
Benjamin lit up the Gators' defense for 212 yards and three touchdowns on nine catches

Florida's pass D last season:
#2 in NCAA, #1 in SEC - fewest passing TDs allowed
#5 in NCAA, #1 in SEC - lowest comp pct allowed
#7 in NCAA, #1 in SEC - fewest passing ypg allowed
#8 in NCAA, #1 in SEC - pass efficiency D

 

 

CBS Sports' Bruce Feldman:
"Benjamin will make personnel folks' chins hit the floor when they first see him"

 

"You can't go wrong with Ryan Leaf or Peyton Manning. They're both just so good."

 

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#39 micnificent28

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 07:31 PM

Yep, that's my exact concern. Calvin Johnson is essentially the same size. He's listed at 236, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit if he's 240+. But again, he's a freak.

When you look at KB's measurements and times, they scream elite NFL TE. They don't scream WR.


The same can be said for olsen. Hes more a wr than a te. But the fact of the matter is the kid is a football player a weapon who cant be defined by a simple position. Yoy can play him te or wr and he wins. That's a valuable asset this day and age.

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 07:34 PM

fun fact:

Kelvin was #3 in the NCAA in TD catches with 15 last year behind Adams and Cooks (who had 1 more). Kelvin ended the year with a TD catch in six consecutive games
Rotoworld: "The 6-foot-5, 234-pounder is a matchup nightmare and a nuclear weapon in the red zone"

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 07:51 PM

The same can be said for olsen. Hes more a wr than a te. But the fact of the matter is the kid is a football player a weapon who cant be defined by a simple position. Yoy can play him te or wr and he wins. That's a valuable asset this day and age.

 

Hell, Olsen is faster.



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Posted 16 April 2014 - 07:53 PM

I'm not high on Benjamin in the first round...anytime after that I would LOVE him.  He could be a dominating presence on the field with good coaching.

 



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Posted 16 April 2014 - 07:54 PM

It's funny that people knock Benjamin for maybe skipping a private workout but the big story right now is how all these private workouts are really tiring out these prospects. Just something to chew on.


It's amazing the amount of hate Benjamin get's on this board but those say guys will hype u a less productive project like Moncrief...

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 07:55 PM

Hell, Olsen is faster.

I don't think so...and definately not as big of a rezone threat. Olsen goes down first chance he gets and is one of the softed te's in the league as far as im concerned.

Benjamin wins at the point of attack which means his timed speed really doesn't matter. Add to the fact that most of his receptions were deep ball catches and im even less concerned.

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Posted 16 April 2014 - 08:14 PM

"You can't go wrong with Ryan Leaf or Peyton Manning. They're both just so good."

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2003: WR Charles Rogers, WR Bryant Johnson, WR Taylor Jacobs, and WR Bethel Johnson were all drafted before a big 216-pound WR out of FSU named Anquan Boldin

2003 scouting reports on Boldin:

Fox Sports, 2003 on Boldin:
'he is still a little raw. He is an excellent athlete with good size and speed. ... had a solid year. He has good hands and can make some spectacular catches.
He does a good job of catching passes on the run and getting up field in a hurry. On the downside, he tends to try and run before he catches the pass, so he needs to concentrate a little more. Boldin will extend his hands and catch the ball away from his body. He is an elusive runner and can start and stop in a heartbeat. He is getting better at reading coverages and finding the soft spots of zone coverages. He does a good job of coming out of his breaks and getting separation from the defensive backs. Where he needs to get better and can, is getting off the line of scrimmage. Boldin has good size and uses it to his advantage in blocking. He doesn't have great techniques...Boldin is a good receiver but is such a great athlete and has so much more to learn, he is worth taking a chance on at some point in the draft."

Sports Illustrated, 2003 on Boldin:
"Performed terribly at the Combine, running poorly and struggling during pass catching drills.... Nice-sized wide out ...Extends and catches the pass away from his frame, boxes out defenders and effectively runs after the reception. Adjusts to the errant throw, reaching back to catch the ball without breaking stride. Settles into the open spot on the field, looks the pass into his hands and pulls the throw out of the air. Displays focus, concentration and timing....Not quick off the line of scrimmage, lacks sharpness running routes and overall quickness. Does not have the second gear or have separation downfield.
ANALYSIS: Not as bad as he looked at the Combine but his draft ranking will suffer none the less. A viable possession receiver at the next level who sneaks it downfield on occasion.
PROJECTION: Mid Fourth Round"


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