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#1 Mr. Scot

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:37 AM

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A WHOLE PIE!

Saw a blurb on PFT that said the Pittsburgh Steelers are one of eight teams who have no players left over from their 2009 draft class.  Curiosity got the better of me so I clicked the link to the story.

 

Yes, we're one of them :(

 

Still curious, I decided to research the years from 2009 since just to see where our draft picks were now.  Results are below, with info added for anyone not currently on roster and picks that were traded.

 

 

2013

1 -  DT Star Lotulelei
2 -  DT Kawann Short
3 -  Traded to San Francisco (Frank Alexander)
4 -  T Edmund Kugbila
5 -  LB A.J. Klein
6 -  RB Kenjon Barner
7 -  Traded to Oakland (Louis Murphy)

2012

1 -  LB Luke Kuechly
2 -  G Amini Silatolu
3 -  Traded to Chicago (Greg Olsen)
4 -  DE Frank Alexander
4 -  WR-RS Joe Adams (out of football)
5 -  CB Josh Norman (probably 50-50 to make this year's roster)
6 -  P Brad Nortman
7 -  S D.J. Campbell (will attend training camp with the San Francisco 49ers)

2011

1 -  QB Cam Newton
2 -  Traded to New England (Armanti Edwards)
3 -  DT Terrell McClain (will attend training camp with the Dallas Cowboys)
3 -  DT Sione Fua (backup for the Denver Broncos)
4 -  CB Brandon Hogan (playing in the CFL)
5 -  WR-KR Kealoha Pilares (long shot to make this year's roster)
6 -  LB Lawrence Wilson (will attend training camp with the Chicago Bears)
6 -  G Zack Williams (playing in the Arena Football League)
7 -  T Lee Ziemba (out of football)

2010

1 -  Traded to San Francisco (Everette Brown)
2 -  QB Jimmy Clausen (free agent)
3 -  WR Brandon LaFell (signed with New England Patriots)
3 -  WR-RS Armanti Edwards (free agent)
4 -  DE Eric Norwood (playing in the CFL)
5 -  Traded to Kansas City (Tank Tyler)
6 -  DE Greg Hardy
6 -  WR David Gettis (will attend training camp with the Washington Redskins)
6 -  S Jordan Pugh (will attend training camp with the New Orleans Saints)
6 -  QB Tony Pike (officially "retired")
7 -  CB R.J. Stanford (will attend training camp with the Cincinnati Bengals)
7 -  CB Robert McClain (backup for the Atlanta Falcons)

2009

1 -  Traded to Eagles (Jeff Otah)
2 -  DE Everette Brown (free agent)
2 -  S Sherrod Martin (will attend training camp with the Jacksonville Jaguars)
3 -  DT Corvey Irvin (will attend training camp with the Detroit Lions)
4 -  RB Mike Goodson (still with the New York Jets; legal issues still unresolved)
4 -  FB Tony Fiammetta (will attend training camp with the Chicago Bears)
5 -  G Duke Robinson (playing in the Arena Football League)
6 -  Traded to Oakland (trade down)
7 -  CB Captain Munnerlyn (signed with the Minnesota Vikings)

 

 

Nobody left from 2009.  Only one player left from 2010 (Greg Hardy) and two from 2011 (Cam Newton, Kealoha Pilares) though I seriously doubt Pilares makes the final roster this year.  Realistically, a lot of the "attending camp with" guys will be free agents come September.

 

The top half of the 2012 draft still looks decent.  The bottom half not so much except for Brad Nortman.  As with Pilares, I question whether Josh Norman sticks this season.

 

Obviously, the 2013 class is still writing their story, but outside of Edmund Kugbila and (some would argue) Kenjon Barner, the early returns are good.

 

As five year histories go though, only three (realistically two) players left out of that three year stretch from 2009 to 2011 is a pretty big red flag for a team whose philosophy is "build though the draft" :unsure:

 

Definitely looking for improvement in the years ahead...



#2 Mr. Scot

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:41 AM

Names out of that list that make me wince...

 

Joe Adams

Terrell McClain

Sione Fua

Brandon Hogan

Tony Pike

Duke Robinson

 

And of course the obvious ones like Armanti Edwards, Jimmy Clausen and Everette Brown.

 

I'm trying to remember how it was that I ever imagined a perennially contending Panthers team led by the combo of Clausen to Edwards :wacko:

 

 



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:42 AM

Hurney Magic



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:44 AM

That's pretty standard fair.  You can look at many teams and see the same thing.   The average NFL player career is 3.5 years.  The build through the draft philosophy is based developing your core through the draft and picking up small pieces through trade and free agency.  The build through the draft means you aren't going to spend big money with FA.

 

So basically we have:

QB of the future

MLB of the future along with AJ Klein who looks like he can play a long time as well.

DT's of the future

DE's of the future (hopefully)

 

Now we have to sure up the other parts....

 

If you look at other people drafts it's not much better than ours tbh.



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:46 AM

It is not surprising that we had so much churn since 2009 with a new head coach and a new GM.  Obviously they do not value the talent we had the same as Hurney and Fox did.  Lets see how we do over the next few years if there is any consistency at the coaching and GM position. Gettleman is still turning over the roster this year as well.



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:47 AM

That's pretty standard fair.  You can look at many teams and see the same thing.   The average NFL player career is 3.5 years.  The build through the draft philosophy is based developing your core through the draft and picking up small pieces through trade and free agency.  The build through the draft means you aren't going to spend big money with FA.

 

So basically we have:

QB of the future

MLB of the future along with AJ Klein who looks like he can play a long time as well.

DT's of the future

DE's of the future (hopefully)

 

Now we have to sure up the other parts....

 

If you look at other people drafts it's not much better than ours tbh.

 

The last two years skew things a little in the overall results.

 

I'll grant that there's a lot of turnover in the league, but three whole drafts netting only two players is awful.
 



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:51 AM

This was fun AND painful to read.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:55 AM

Speaking of former draft picks I saw Dewayne Jarrett at the Harris Teeter this weekend.  He wasn't looking like he would be making a comeback anytime soon.



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:59 AM

Speaking of former draft picks I saw Dewayne Jarrett at the Harris Teeter this weekend.  He wasn't looking like he would be making a comeback anytime soon.

 

Officially he's 'retired' :unsure:

 

That pass Jarrett caught from Matt Moore at the end of the 2009 season to beat the Saints had me thinking maybe the light would come on and we might get something going there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah... :(



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 09:03 AM

Officially he's 'retired' :unsure:

 

That pass Jarrett caught from Matt Moore at the end of the 2009 season to beat the Saints had me thinking maybe the light would come on and we might get something going there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah... :(

 

 

That was the second time I've seen him up close.  The first time was right after we drafted him and I was in shock at how big that dude was.  When I saw him this weekend he was thin as a rail and looked like someone that would be hanging out on N. Tryon. 



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 09:05 AM

That was the second time I've seen him up close.  The first time was right after we drafted him and I was in shock at how big that dude was.  When I saw him this weekend he was thin as a rail and looked like someone that would be hanging out on N. Tryon. 

 

Ouch :(
 



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 09:08 AM

Love to see that breakdown with some other teams in the league... looks pretty sketchy to me.



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 09:10 AM

Love to see that breakdown with some other teams in the league... looks pretty sketchy to me.

 

I'm sure someone has done it.  I'm not about to try :lol:

 

I know the Patriots draft history since Pioli left sucks.

 

The Steelers used to be one of the best drafting teams in the league.  These days I think they're slipping.
 



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 09:24 AM

Have to be honest here, I'm not shocked.

 

I thought that Hurney had one of the worst "eyes" for talent in the league.  Probably relied upon his scouting staff far too much, didn't understand schemes, nor did he plan for the future.

 

 



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 09:33 AM

The 2009 and 2010 drafts, outside of Hardy, were unbelievably awful.  Wow.




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