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#1 Mr. Scot

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 10:56 AM

From Bryan Strickland's latest "Mocking the Panthers" (link)

 

 

Daniel Jeremiah, NFL.com
DT Louis Nix, Notre Dame


The Panthers selected defensive tackles with their first two choices last year. Would they go there again? With the re-signing of defensive tackle Colin Cole, the top nine defensive linemen on the roster last year are all back for the 2014 season.

The mountain of a man that is Nix can help someone situated in the latter stages of the first round. By the way, Drafttek.com lists Nix's teammate at Notre Dame, defensive end Stephon Tuitt, at No. 28 on its big board.

 

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Gil Brandt, NFL.com
DT Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota


Brandt says that the 6-5, 310-pounder Hageman "has size, power and explosion but lacks consistency, otherwise he would be ranked higher. He might be too tall to play defensive tackle in the NFL but is good enough to convert to end."

Flexibility is always a good thing, both when it comes to prospects and to draft strategies.

 

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Josh Norris, Rotoworld.com
DE Jeremiah Attaochu, Georgia Tech


The three other analysts referenced in this article that go at least 50-deep with their prospects don't list Attaochu. That should serve as a reminder that while looking at the consensus is a good way to get a feel for the draft, NFL teams will have significant differences of opinion on their draft grades - causing the draft to play out in a way no one can accurately predict.

 

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Charlie Campbell, WalterFootball.com
QB Derek Carr, Fresno State


While the Panthers try to take the best available player, that strategy has its limits. I'll go out on a limb and say Carolina will not choose a quarterback in the first round.

 

 

 

I can kind of see the DEs (though not the Georgia tech guy) but DTs?  And a quarterback?  Those would be surprises.



#2 TylerVagyler

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 10:58 AM

Can't wait for people not to read the context of the article and just see the names and get mad.



#3 Mr. Scot

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 11:04 AM

Can't wait for people not to read the context of the article and just see the names and get mad.

 

I read the article, and yeah the methodology is obviously not geared to right results (a guy like Gil Brandt would know better).

 

Still found the associations funny.
 



#4 Salvo

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 11:21 AM

They're just taking the BPA mantra a little too literally.

 

Yes, GMan believes in BPA, but it's HIS BPA....not who's the best available according to McShay, Kiper, or any other dumbass writer out there.

 

We have many needs, including potential future issues at LB, DE and RB. I wouldn't be surprised if we snagged a couple at those positions if a BPA fell into Gettleman's lap.

 

But at QB? And Derek Carr to boot? C'mon now....



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 11:32 AM

i think this organization should know better than to stay far away from any Carr as possible



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 11:35 AM

Just so people know what Tyler is talking about (from the article)...

 

With all that in mind, we'll set aside the mock drafts this week and instead look at several analysts' "big boards," which simply rank the top prospects in order.

Upon review of the 28th spot on those lists, another pattern develops: The Panthers could be in position to make their strengths stronger.

 



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 01:09 PM

Compare to this from Seattle:

 

2010:

 

1st Round: OT Russell Okung - Starting O-line

1st Round:S Earl Thomas - Probably top safety in NFL

2nd Round: WR Golden Tate - Free Agent - Signed away from Seattle

4th Round:CB Walter Thurmond - Starting DB

5th Round: S Kim Chancellor - Starting SS  

6th Round: TE Anthony McCoy  - No Clue?

 

2011:

1st Round: OG  James Carpenter - Starting O-line

4th Round: OLB KJ Wright - Starting LB

5th Round: CB Richard Sherman - Top 3 CB in NFL

6th Round: CB Byron Maxwell - Starting Nickel

7th Round: OLB Malcolm Smith - Starting LB, Super Bowl MVP

 

2012:

1st Round - DE Bruce Irvin - Starting DE

2nd Round - MLB Bobby Wager - Starting MLB

3rd Round - QB Russell Wilson - Starting QB

4th Round -  RB Robert Turbin - 3rd down RB

4th Round - LB Korey Toomer - No Clue

6th Round - CB Jeremy Lane - Depth DB

7th Round - DE J.R. Sweezy - Depth DL

 

 

Those 3 drafts are what turned Seattle into what they are today.  Those are 3 incredible drafts.  Just sad when you compare ours to them.

 

 

 



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 01:11 PM

Compare to this from Seattle:

 

2010:

 

1st Round: OT Russell Okung - Starting O-line

1st Round:S Earl Thomas - Probably top safety in NFL

2nd Round: WR Golden Tate - Free Agent - Signed away from Seattle

4th Round:CB Walter Thurmond - Starting DB

5th Round: S Kim Chancellor - Starting SS  

6th Round: TE Anthony McCoy  - No Clue?

 

2011:

1st Round: OG  James Carpenter - Starting O-line

4th Round: OLB KJ Wright - Starting LB

5th Round: CB Richard Sherman - Top 3 CB in NFL

6th Round: CB Byron Maxwell - Starting Nickel

7th Round: OLB Malcolm Smith - Starting LB, Super Bowl MVP

 

2012:

1st Round - DE Bruce Irvin - Starting DE

2nd Round - MLB Bobby Wager - Starting MLB

3rd Round - QB Russell Wilson - Starting QB

4th Round -  RB Robert Turbin - 3rd down RB

4th Round - LB Korey Toomer - No Clue

6th Round - CB Jeremy Lane - Depth DB

7th Round - DE J.R. Sweezy - Depth DL

 

 

Those 3 drafts are what turned Seattle into what they are today.  Those are 3 incredible drafts.  Just sad when you compare ours to them.

 

I got a feeling you meant this for the other thread (last five Panther drafts).



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 01:27 PM

I got a feeling you meant this for the other thread (last five Panther drafts).

 

 

Yup, good call.



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Posted 21 April 2014 - 01:38 PM

The Seattle stuff may be in the wrong thread, but I'd give my left pinky finger for their 2010 draft. 



#11 thunderraiden

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 07:05 PM

The Seattle stuff may be in the wrong thread, but I'd give my left pinky finger for their 2010 draft.


Cant wait for them to have to pay all their players so they can see how it feels to be cap challenged.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 08:05 PM

by far my favorite non-WR/OL/DB is DT Ra'Shede Hageman, Minnesota.  hes like a bigger star-like player, with similar questions of motor. cole is not safe and no long term answer is at DT after kk/star. hes a wild card player at 28, it wouldnt shock me.



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Posted 22 April 2014 - 12:20 AM

argh! I'm so mad!


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