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Donte Moncrief has visited and worked out with Panthers

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So we've met with/worked out 15 WRs so far...
 
Jared Abbredris, Wisconsin (Senior Bowl)
Marqise Lee, USC (On Campus & Private)
Brandin Cooks, Oregan State (On Campus & Private)
Philly Brown, Ohio State (Private)
Cody Latimer, Indiana (Private & On Campus)
Kevin Norwood, Alabama (Pro Day)
Robert Herron, Wyoming (On Campus & Private)
Matt Hazel, Coastal Carolina (On Campus & Private)
Davante Adams, Fresno State (On Campus)
Jordan Mathews, Vanderbilt (On Campus)
Willie Snead, Ball State (On Campus)
Odell Beckham Jr, LSU (On Campus)
Jarvis Landry, LSU (On Campus)
Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State (On Campus)
Donate Moncrief, Ole Miss (On Campus & Private)
 
 
Hopefully we are able to land at least 1 of the guys at the top of our board.
 

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Bucs blogger today:

"Wide receiver Donte Moncrief is the latest receiver to visit the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.... Moncrief is generally seen as a second- or third-round prospect. He'd represent excellent value with the Bucs' third-round pick, but wouldn't look bad as a second-round pick, either.

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The Mississippi prospect is not a complete receiver...The offense he operated in was fairly simple, and he had a few issues catching the football. He did display the ability to adjust to the ball and win jump-ball battles, but he also had a few too many drops."

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Eagles blogger:

"Moncrief has okay-to-mediocre hands"

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Penn State QB is quite elite. Going to be a real legit player in my opinion. but i understand what you are saying.

 

I thought of that after I posted it.  Was away from my computer--I agree

 

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this guy believes he has a late 1st early 2nd round grade. and with several teams picking ahead of the panthers with needs at WR, he could be gone.

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2014/04/21/greg-cosell-i-really-like-wr-donte-moncrief-as-a-late-1st-round-pick/

For every one of those guys, you can find someone saying 3rd-4th. The fact of the matter is only 59 players can go before 60. Everyone saying "we gotta get him before someone else does!" Doesn't realize that there are other positions than wr that will go in the draft.

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Uhhh... did you see his workout, measurables and his tape against Auburn and LSU? Moncrief's QB can't throw for poo and he still managed to amass 800+ yards with 6 TDs.

Bo Wallace had a completion rate of almost 65% with over 3300 yards. He's not some scrub.

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For every one of those guys, you can find someone saying 3rd-4th. The fact of the matter is only 59 players can go before 60. Everyone saying "we gotta get him before someone else does!" Doesn't realize that there are other positions than wr that will go in the draft.

 

Greg Cosell isn't just a guy though.

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Greg Cosell isn't just a guy though.

I agree. But his word isn't gospel.

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49ers blogger:

"I've seen nine games, a few times each, and while I admit that Moncrief is an athletic guy, I am not sure I'm as high on him as others. He really has a lot to work on...I'm just gonna come right out and say it...Moncrief does not have good hands. Some will argue and give a myriad of excuses as to why he drops passes, but there are plenty of well-placed footballs that he simply drops of his own volition. He loves to cradle the ball into his gut, often leaving his feet for passes unnecessarily. If he has to go up and get it with his hands, there's a decent chance it's going to hit the ground.

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All-in-all I wouldn't be in favor of investing a first or even second round pick on Moncrief. The big plays are few and far between and it seems he has a long way to go - and who knows if he even can improve upon his hands"

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I really think, with the seemingly thorough research we've done for this draft at WR, that when our pick comes in the first, it will come down to overall grades put on by Gettleman.

I've liked Moncrief for a while. Kid is good. If we do go OT in the first, then him in the 2nd would make me happy.

If we DO double up on WRs in the first two rounds, expect that Gettleman told our distinguished OC that we're going to run more spread and he's going to like it or be fired. Only explanation.

 

I don't think adding talent at the wide-out position means we need to change our offensive scheme.  There is nothing wrong with playing a clock-controlling offense, especially when you consider how valuable keeping our front 7 fresh is.

 

We can see a vast improvement in the offense even with our scheme.  NOT dropping passes will be the first improvement.  Beating DBs at the line will be the second - allows Cam a quick dump-off when defenses send the house.  Overall playmaking ability will be third - our wideouts were pretty awful after the catch last year, having a guy or two who can turn a 5 yard catch into 15, 30 yards or even a TD will be plenty welcome.

 

Overall I don't see us switching to "air it out" offense even if we hit gold on receivers in the draft.  We'll continue to take what the defenses give us and most likely go deep when we force the safeties to creep up a bit too far.  Honestly I'd rather see us build upon what was successful last season than reinvent the wheel.

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NFP:

"Limited route tree, often body catches, doesn’t have a big receiving radius. ... Ole Miss plays from a spread offense and they don’t have Moncrief run a very sophisticated route tree. His main route is the bubble screen, but he will run some hitches and comebacks as well as some go routes. You don’t see a lot of slants and crossing routes. ... he will body catch some and doesn’t have a really big receiving radius. His ability to adjust to the ball is good but not great. He will have some concentration drops. ... Moncrief is still raw...He is not ready to step in and be more than a rotational contributor at this time. He is going to need to learn how to read coverages to make sight adjustments and will also need to develop his overall route running skills. ... I think he is a solid third round pick but his natural physical traits (4.40 forty / 39.5" vertical / etc) may get him drafted higher."

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