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In Topic: Saints trading again?

Yesterday, 11:22 AM

Maybe Payton was serious when he said that. But just because someone says they won't, doesn't mean they won't.

If they make it public knowledge they want Mariota and want to trade up for him, then everyone knows what they're going to do, and it is very likely that the price goes up. So by saying they won't, or dismissing it, it at least keeps people guessing, which outside of the Bucs in this year's draft is what teams tend to do.

That said, while they probably won't trade up for Mariota, it wouldn't surprise me if they did.

It would have been very simple to say we'll have to see how the draft goes, which is the pretty common company line. There's been no reports of the Saints being interested in MM, just speculation. Payton blatantly said, "We will not be trading up for Marcus Mariota." It's not very often you get such a straight forward answer from him.

I'm not saying they won't take him if he falls, which he very well could. But trading up for a QB of the future isn't where this team is at right now.

In Topic: Saints trading again?

27 March 2015 - 09:24 PM

It wouldn't surprise me to see them trade up for Mariota. They can sit him for a year behind Brees, and if he's ready, trade Brees to a QB needy team. Or they can sit him behind Brees for the last two seasons of his deal, then let Brees walk and replace him with Mariota.

Granted I don't want to see the Saints go from one franchise QB to their next without a period of decline. But it wouldn't surprise me to see them try to land Brees' successor this year with the moves they're making. Then again, maybe they do decide to stick with paying big money to Brees for the foreseeable future...

Sean Payton said very clearly they won't be trading up for MM.

In Topic: Saints trading again?

27 March 2015 - 01:57 PM

Speak for yourself. Most see this as one last desperate attempt at a SB. It may have extended the window of possibility a year or two, but it's less likely it happens now. Brees is getting up there and I don't think they should have retooled until a year from now. Some would say they did go "all in" the way the contracts were structured which forced their hand in some of these moves this offseason. Once Brees retires...I don't see them doing anything for a long time.

Some of us see it as an attempt to set ourselves up better for the future, after Brees, while trying to remain competitive now. They cleared a ton of money off the books for next year and after.

In Topic: Saints trading again?

27 March 2015 - 12:54 PM

Every teams plans to win the Super Bowl.

That doesn't guarantee that the steps they take to do so are good ones.

I was more referencing the common Saints went all in last year thought process. In all reality, they signed one free agent lol. I just don't understand the whole they really went all in thought process, just because they signed a high prices all pro safety who was 28. Byrd wasn't just a last year signing.

In Topic: Saints trading again?

27 March 2015 - 12:52 PM

Realistically though, did you foresee trading Graham and Stills?

I'd say those were 'surprises' too.

Word from most insiders is that the Saints are willing to part with pretty much anybody but Brees and Cooks. Given that and the salary cap numbers, I won't be too surprised if Evans winds up gone. Maybe not to the Bills, but somewhere.

Hell no I didn't see those trades coming lol. Not sure anyone did.

But the goal in all of this is to improve the oline and defense. Mickey Loomis and Sean Payton both spoke on it extensively in recent press conferences. Obviously, if they get what they want for Evans, he's gone. I think that should go for most players on any roster. But you have to move him with a plan. You trade him. Who plays his position? How much will the replacement cost? Is there a big difference between the two numbers? Can the replacement play as good or better than Evans?

I would say Drew is the only untouchable player on the roster. But the only way the Saints are getting off a player is if they feel like they're improving the team.