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#2862229 The downsides of being rich

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 23 July 2014 - 04:10 PM

 

 

“Most people now want something out of you, and it can be harder to figure out whether someone is being nice to you because they like you, or they are being nice to you because of your money,”

 

yeah poor ppl don't have to worry about being exploi-hahahahaha.

 

also they have the added benefit of constantly having to worry about how they will afford life's basic necessities while the rich cry into handfuls of hundreds




#2861552 FBI: violent crime rates drop to historic lows

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 23 July 2014 - 01:25 AM

if you had to walk a mile in philly's shoes, you'd kill yourself

 

if i had to walk a mile in your shoes, i guess i'd be about a mile from your parents' house when it was all said and done




#2860589 A little perspective on the Israeli/Palestinian Conflict

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 22 July 2014 - 01:44 AM

On a train to Budapest and WiFi is slow so can't really do research, what is the reconciliation agreement refered to as one of the last points?

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That government was created largely because of Hamas’s desperation and isolation. The group’s alliance with Syria and Iran was in shambles. Its affiliation with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt became a liability after a July 2013 coup replaced an ally, President Mohamed Morsi, with a bitter adversary, Gen. Abdel Fattah el-Sisi. Hamas’s coffers dried up as General Sisi closed the tunnels that had brought to Gaza the goods and tax revenues on which it depended.

Seeing a region swept by popular protests against leaders who couldn’t provide for their citizens’ basic needs, Hamas opted to give up official control of Gaza rather than risk being overthrown. Despite having won the last elections, in 2006, Hamas decided to transfer formal authority to the Palestinian leadership in Ramallah. That decision led to a reconciliation agreement between Hamas and the Palestine Liberation Organization, on terms set almost entirely by the P.L.O. chairman and Palestinian Authoritypresident, Mahmoud Abbas.

Israel immediately sought to undermine the reconciliation agreement by preventing Hamas leaders and Gaza residents from obtaining the two most essential benefits of the deal: the payment of salaries to 43,000 civil servants who worked for the Hamas government and continue to administer Gaza under the new one, and the easing of the suffocating border closures imposed by Israel and Egypt that bar most Gazans’ passage to the outside world.

Yet, in many ways, the reconciliation government could have served Israel’s interests. It offered Hamas’s political adversaries a foothold in Gaza; it was formed without a single Hamas member; it retained the same Ramallah-based prime minister, deputy prime ministers, finance minister and foreign minister; and, most important, it pledged to comply with the three conditions for Western aid long demanded by America and its European allies: nonviolence, adherence to past agreements and recognition of Israel.

Israel strongly opposed American recognition of the new government, however, and sought to isolate it internationally, seeing any small step toward Palestinian unity as a threat. Israel’s security establishment objects to the strengthening of West Bank-Gaza ties, lest Hamas raise its head in the West Bank. And Israelis who oppose a two-state solution understand that a unified Palestinian leadership is a prerequisite for any lasting peace.




#2860581 A little perspective on the Israeli/Palestinian Conflict

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 22 July 2014 - 01:24 AM

now that we've established that we're not nazis, maariv reported several days ago that hamas offered a 10 year truce so long as israel accepted the following conditions: 

 

 

Withdrawal of Israeli tanks from the Gaza border.

Freeing all the prisoners that were arrested after the killing of the three youths.

Lifting the siege and opening the border crossings to commerce and people.

Establishing an international seaport and airport which would be under U.N. supervision.

Increasing the permitted fishing zone to 10 kilometers.

Internationalizing the Rafah Crossing and placing it under the supervision of the U.N. and some Arab nations.

International forces on the borders.

Easing conditions for permits to pray at the Al Aqsa Mosque.

Prohibition on Israeli interference in the reconciliation agreement.

Reestablishing an industrial zone and improvements in further economic development in the Gaza Strip.

 

how many of these requests seem unreasonable as a starting point (presuming that the goal is to work toward peace)? 

 

 

http://mondoweiss.ne...conditions.html




#2860577 A little perspective on the Israeli/Palestinian Conflict

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 22 July 2014 - 01:06 AM

Wait so is there one poster you think is a Nazi or were you just misspeaking and trying to draw a comparison to the relative lack of support that guy would have? If there is a Nazi poster here I am curious who it is.

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you're giving him a lot of leeway when he literally bolded "hitler didn't kill enough jews" and responded with "i think one prolific poster here will agree. the rest not so much."

 

it is the tired argument that if you believe the indiscriminate targeting of civilians is an objectively bad thing, you're an anti-semite. he just doesn't want to own it because he believes that it chips away at his "free thinking independent" facade that he thinks he has carefully constructed. it is an intellectually dishonest argument made by people who have reached their conclusions without considering the facts and circumstances. he knows how he's supposed to think but he doesn't actually know how to get there himself, ergo those who oppose israeli imperialism are just anti-semitic and there's no reason to explain why. he needs to read dershowitz or something in order to really shore up his mass-murder apologia




#2860443 As you have grown up have you become more liberal or more conservative?

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 21 July 2014 - 09:57 PM

“If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty, you have no brain.”

― Winston Churchill

 

 

 

 

 

These quotes make for good story-telling but popular myth has falsely attributed them to Churchill.

 

"Conservative by the time you're 35"

 

"If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart.  If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain." There is no record of anyone hearing Churchill say this. Paul Addison of Edinburgh University makes this comment: "Surely Churchill can't have used the words attributed to him. He'd been a Conservative at 15 and a Liberal at 35!  And would he have talked so disrespectfully of Clemmie, who is generally thought to have been a lifelong Liberal?"

 

http://www.winstonch...sely-attributed




#2860215 A little perspective on the Israeli/Palestinian Conflict

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 21 July 2014 - 05:46 PM

also, with the "but if it were mah famulee i'd kill um all" talk, how would you react to ghettoization and a blockade similar to what palestinians experience in gaza? or if, say, your children were brutally murdered while playing soccer on the beach? how in the fug do you people not understand what drives organizations like hamas?




#2860079 A little perspective on the Israeli/Palestinian Conflict

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 21 July 2014 - 03:47 PM

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Dealing w/ Hamas is like dealing w/ a crazy woman who's trying to kill u - u can only hold her wrists so long before you have to slap her

 

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#2859612 NYPD kill a man after placing him in a chokehold

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 21 July 2014 - 02:10 AM

This is an institutional problem and it happens all the time. Go and read the comment section on Policeone.com one day and see if they have this story. All of them are verified police officers and they will unanimously back this guy up. It's fuging disgusting.

 

yeah but davidson deac had multiple run ins with the law and none of those cops choked him to death while he was reporting his neighbors for smoking weed in their backyard and loudly playing their music as late as 6 pm on a school night, therefore HOGWASH




#2858970 A little perspective on the Israeli/Palestinian Conflict

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 20 July 2014 - 04:26 PM

rarely do you hear the "one hundred eyes-for-an-eye" defense of the deaths of civilians but welp it is an israel-palestine thread after all




#2858963 A little perspective on the Israeli/Palestinian Conflict

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 20 July 2014 - 04:22 PM

Hamas nor the Palestinians (who continue to elect them) are against a 2-state solution while Israel has agreed to it many times.

 

Hamas (and the Palestinians) want nothing more than to remove Israel from the planet. Fug 'em. If you are not smart enough to understand and realize that Israel has always believed that if you kill one of ours, we kill hundreds of yours. Been that way for many years- fug with the bull- you get the horn.
 

 

sounds like a sociopathic state

 

the way you describe the situation leads me to believe that you think palestinians are, by their very existence, combatants. seek help. it is every country's responsibility to limit civilian casualties. every country's responsibility except israel.




#2858954 A little perspective on the Israeli/Palestinian Conflict

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 20 July 2014 - 04:12 PM

Right, the Israelis started all of this... keep on believin'

 

Last time I checked, Hamas began lobbing rockets into Israel after Israel retaliated for the kidnap and murder of 3 teens a couple weeks ago... or have you conveniently forgotten about that?

 

Oh, and those darned tunnels? Just exactly what are those intended for?

 

who murdered those teens? and just how many dead civilians is too many dead civilians in your blood lust?




#2858933 A little perspective on the Israeli/Palestinian Conflict

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 20 July 2014 - 03:57 PM

...when said women and children are used as "security' for rocket launching fools...
 

 

gaza is 139 square miles with a population of nearly 2 million people. your line of argument is repeated often but rarely supported by the evidence. israel has a history of using collective punishment.

 

also were those kids who were just killed on the beach acting as "security" too?




#2858922 A little perspective on the Israeli/Palestinian Conflict

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 20 July 2014 - 03:42 PM

What did you expect to happen with Gaza and Hamas? Seriously, what do the Hamas sympathizers think?

 

I heard it put very simply the other day- Israel cannot afford to lose a war, battle or skirmish. To do so is the end of their culture.

 

that israel is an apartheid state that breeds violent resistance through its settlements and indiscriminate murder of palestinian children




#2850937 This 100% proves global warming is real

Posted by GOOGLE RON PAUL on 15 July 2014 - 12:50 AM

Yes it's definitely the scientists with their fingers in their ears.






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