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TonyN

Member Since 26 Oct 2012
Last Active Apr 07 2015 08:21 PM
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In Topic: Moving on from Manziel?

07 April 2015 - 08:20 PM

Spending a first round pick on an undersized QB from a gimmick offense is a serious reach, but as much as I doubt Manziel will become a good QB, you simply cannot call him a bust yet. 

 

He has a strong enough arm. He shows good accuracy and an ability to throw on the move. There is no doubt he is a good athlete. He is intelligent. He is short, but there are QB's his size who have succeeded. If he sobers up and starts taking the game seriously, there is no doubt he could stick in the league and possibly even become a good player. I doubt it will happen, frankly, but it is possible. As damning as the leaked Patriot scouting report was, anyone who doubts Manziel has ANY chance to succeed should read it. The kid has talent. 


In Topic: Why is it that some of you huddlers are fixated on..

03 April 2015 - 10:12 PM

I don't think any intelligent fan or NFL talent evaluator is "fixated" only on 40 times in the evaluation of receivers.

 

That being said, everything else being equal, a wide-out who runs a 4.40 40 yard dash is almost certainly going to be a better player than a wide-out who runs a 4.55 40 yard dash. But the shuttle run and 3 cone are also important drills to determine real, usable "football speed". Track speed does not necessarily translate into football speed. The bottom line is that 40 times are simply a piece of the puzzle.


In Topic: Person tweets Jennings not with Panthers

31 March 2015 - 08:57 PM

The Huddle has quite a poor track record in terms of evaluating wideouts.

 

Steve Smith was done as a number one receiver. He was at best a number two. At his age was ideally suited to limp along as a number 3...then he goes to a very good Ravens team, becomes their clear number 1 and goes for 1000+ and 13.5 yards a catch.

 

Brandon LaFell was pure trash. Probably could not even make most NFL rosters. As a number 2 he was an embarrassment. Worse number 2 in the history of football...then he goes to New England, becomes a hybrid 1/2 for the Patriots, goes for essentially 1000 yards (953) and wins a Super Bowl. 

 

Stephen Hill...He sick...sign that man...Hill couldn't beat out Avant or Bersin to even make the roster and has a good chance on never making it off the practice squad.

 

Now everyone is up in arms about possibly not signing Jennings, whose production has declined his last three full seasons in the league and is nothing more than JAG at this point in his career. 

 

And this is the same Huddle that was so high on Cotchery and Avant going into last season...now the popular opinion is that those two are trash not worthy of a roster spot...

 

 


In Topic: same as last year, Rivera says Cam has got to become a more sound QB

27 March 2015 - 12:45 AM

Ok, so you want to play the peer game.

 

Here are your rankings (the first three are tops of all time):

 

Aaron Rodgers        106.0

Tony Romo              97.6

Peyton Manning       97.5

Tom Brady               95.9

Philip Rivers             95.7

Drew Brees             95.4

Ben Roethlisberger   95.9

Matt Ryan                91.1

Matt Schaub            89.9

Andrew Luck           86.6

Carson Palmer        86.3

Cam Newton           85.4

 

Now suffice it to say that Schaub has seen better days, and if you take into account that a lot of these guys are probably not going to be around in three years, who do you think is going to be near the top of the league? Then, again for shits and giggles, just think of the weapons that some of these QBs have had over the years and compare them to what Cam has had.  You got to be kidding me, dude.

His passer rating is not that far off from Andrew Luck, the purported gold standard of the young QBs.

 

Like I said, give Cam better conditions, or at least those equal to some of his peers before you throw him under the bus.  What you're trying to insinuate about him just being not that good is totally false, and that's before you take his running into account.

 

Don't forget about Wilson's 98.6

or Foles 94.2

or Kaepernick's 90.6

or Griffin's 90.6

or Bridgewater's 85.2

or Austin Davis' 85.1

 

all QB's with less experience than Newton and better/equal passing numbers. As far as Newton is concerned, I maintain what I have been saying about him for the last 2 1/2 seasons. He is a mediocre passer with good mobility. I stand by that assessment. I realize 3 1000 yard receivers and a top 10 rushing attack are not good enough weapons for Cam to put up big numbers---that's what the Panthers had in 2013...Cam just needed MORE "weapons" in order to finish above 16th in NFL passer rating...


In Topic: same as last year, Rivera says Cam has got to become a more sound QB

27 March 2015 - 12:27 AM

Kid brought a cap gun to the fight, but he didn't realize that I had a 12 gauge.

 

Sorry, dude. I have been waiting 30 minutes for you to pull my cap gun out of your ass. I guess it must be stuck somewhere up there. Later.