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#3097809 Florio: Naive to think FO unaware of Avant's comments before his release

Posted by TonyN on 19 November 2014 - 08:22 PM

Of course Avant's comments contributed to his release. And of course the staff is not going to admit it.


You don't let the inmates run the asylum. Ever. End of story. Interesting that the rest of the NFL isn't clamoring to sign Avant and that he has apparently decided to clam-up on the criticism of his former coaches. Shutting his mouth and performing is the only way he has a chance at staying in the league.


The real story in the Avant release is what it says about the front office.


Cutting Avant puts some superficial egg on Gettleman's face...but Gettleman did it, in order to support Rivera and Rivera's staff.


Not much information leaks out of the GM's office, but Gettleman signed off on Rivera's extension. He warned everyone there was probably going to be a step back this season. Gettleman has been around the league long enough not to make decisions as if he were a pouting 12 year old girl who just lost her Justin Beiber tickets.




#3094176 WR Stat Tracker

Posted by TonyN on 17 November 2014 - 09:39 PM

Williams and Stewart have been damn good NFL running backs.


While spitting time (almost unheard of in today's NFL), Williams has rushed for 6,825 yards and averaged an extremely impressive 4.8 yards a carry. Stewart has rushed for 4,339 yards and a very nice 4.6 yards a carry.


Over the course of their career's the duo has combined for an average of 110 yards a game and 4.7 yards a carry...


Those are extremely good numbers.

#3094099 WR Stat Tracker

Posted by TonyN on 17 November 2014 - 08:46 PM




  • Benjamin leads the group in TDs, receptions, and has almost caught Smith in YPG.
  • Brown surpasses Avant in YPG despite fewer opportunities.
  • Cotchery is now the only Panthers WR (not counting Webb) to not have a TD. Wow.

And my gosh, have you seen how athletic Brandon Lafell looks lately?





What garbage weapons we had last year !!!


All we had was Smitty, who's on pace to go for 1,164 this season...

Olsen, who's on pace to go for 1,045...

LaFail, who's on pace to go for 921...


And stud RB's Williams and Stewart and a very solid offensive line and Pro Bowl fullback Mike Tolbert.


We just need to "build around Cam"...

#3093076 I admit it: I'm more relieved that Cam and the team showed out in the 4th...

Posted by TonyN on 17 November 2014 - 11:15 AM

The big gamble with Newton is deciding whether or not he is going to get his speed and mobility back.


If he has that speed and mobility, he is a player you can build around and hope he doesn't get hurt (if you are a gambling type)...very average in the passing game, but with enough upside running the football to negate some of that.


The version of Newton we see right now is replaceable with virtually any QB in the league. The only QB's with worse passer ratings are Derek Carr, Teddy Bridgewater, Blake Bortles and Geno Smith....three rookies and a second year player having a very tough time transitioning to the NFL.


We are in scary territory as far as Newton's play is concerned.



#3084979 How good is a 5 - 2 Defense?

Posted by TonyN on 13 November 2014 - 01:32 AM

Running a 5-2 would not be much different than running a Wide Tackle Six...


At this point it is really semantic bologna.


How often do you see DE's drop into coverage these days???


Connor Barwin, the DE/OLB  who repeatedly gave us trouble Monday is a DE/ OLB.


The guy is 6' 4' 265.


Is he a LB or a DL???

#3084752 Breaking down that 4th & 1 play..

Posted by TonyN on 12 November 2014 - 08:43 PM

Remember the slant to Benjamin on 4th down earlier this year? Basically the same play.


There is about a 99 chance in 100 that Avant was the primary receiver on this play. Newton is looking right at him. He is obviously the first read. He is wide open. The ball should have been thrown.


You can go deep on 2nd and 1. You can maybe go deep on 3rd and 1 if you are in 4 down territory. 


The only way you can go deep on 4th and 1 is if there is no time left. The deep routes on this play are simply clearing out the middle of the field for the quick slant to Avant. If that isn't there, you go to Stew and trust he can break one tackle. Most good RB's break the initial tackle the vast majority of the time.


Why don't we just blame the offensive line for this one ???

#3083111 1st take destroys the Panthers FO, "Panthers Sold Cam Newton Out"

Posted by TonyN on 11 November 2014 - 11:11 PM

But, but, I read it right here - the very truth that this WR unitis really good and going to come on strong. Much better then LaFell, and Smith and anyone else that was in NC. And the OL just needs time to gel, the D is top notch and will be good enough to keep them from being too much of a liability and oh yeah, the best part - this RB tandem is, like, the best in the league.

Back off the ledge, you guys are way too close. This is just a regrouping year. Y'all will sharpen the knives, fix a few holes with some patches and find some new tools.

A few OL, a nice young RB found anywhere, and some depth across the D. Not hard to patch up, but Newton has to step up, too.


Man, if you only knew...


I made a thread after the first preseason game suggesting that last year's receiving corps might be better than this year's. 


I said that Benjamin, while very talented, might experience some growing pains. I am a Seminole fan and mentioned that Kelvin dropped a lot of balls and tended to lose focus and get lazy in his routes.


I also said that Lafell might not be as terrible as everyone here thought and that Smitty might still be able to play.


I said all these things in a very nice way. 


I was crucified and temporarily banned by the Mods.

#3080289 Look at '11-'12 Rivers to know Newton will be fine; he is just shell-...

Posted by TonyN on 11 November 2014 - 12:40 AM

In Phillip Rivers' "terrible years" of 2011 and 2012 he put up passer ratings of 88.7 and 88.6.


Cam Newton's BEST season has been 88.8.


Phillip Rivers passed for over 4600 yards in his "terrible" 2011 season...in Cam's "magical" season of 2011, he passed for 4000.


Meanwhile, Rivers has topped 100 in NFL passer rating 5 times in the last 7 years and led the entire NFL in passing in just his 3rd season as a starter.

#3079084 Official Panthers - Eagles GameDay Thread

Posted by TonyN on 10 November 2014 - 10:51 PM

And no one open


How would Cam Know ??? He never looked at anyone but Cotch the whole play.

#3078531 Official Panthers - Eagles GameDay Thread

Posted by TonyN on 10 November 2014 - 10:18 PM

Cam is not hurt badly...He is in full sulk mode.

#3078196 Official Panthers - Eagles GameDay Thread

Posted by TonyN on 10 November 2014 - 09:59 PM

Cam's pocket presence is incredible...incredibly bad.

#3066847 The Steelers have the blueprint on how to utilize Cam

Posted by TonyN on 03 November 2014 - 09:38 PM

The average time to sack in the NFL last season was 3.8 seconds.



#3065249 Doubt inside BofA Cam is the future?

Posted by TonyN on 02 November 2014 - 09:59 PM

Ben has been sacked on 25% of his dropbacks tonight.

He has been hit on 50% of his dropbacks tonight.


Cam has been sacked on 7% of his dropbacks this season

And hit on 16.7% of his dropbacks this season...


Roethlisberger has taken 9 total sacks + pressures in the first half...


The season high for the Carolina offensive line is 11 against Detroit for a full game...

#3064779 Watch The Broncos/Patriots Game In Comparison.

Posted by TonyN on 02 November 2014 - 07:34 PM

What part of Cam legs avoid sacks dont you & Claw understand?


You want to be a hater? Fine, but atleast make sense and watch the games


Tom Brady Career sack percentage 4.9


Cam Newton career sack percentage 7.4


"mobile" quarterbacks get sacked more than pocket quarterbacks. It is counterintuitive, but almost a universal truth.

#3064713 Watch The Broncos/Patriots Game In Comparison.

Posted by TonyN on 02 November 2014 - 07:01 PM

Imagine Lafail being double by the Broncos and Brady still trusting him enough to rifle it to him for the first.

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