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TonyN

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#3207966 Mike Wallace anyone

Posted by TonyN on 16 January 2015 - 04:32 PM

Hell yes. He and Cam could have a dozen 50+ yard plays in a season. Tannehill was fuging horrible down the field. Cam and Wallace and KB and Olsen would light it up. All depends on price in my opinion.

 

On passes of over 10 yards last season:

 

Tannehill 77 of 173

 

Newton   75 of 173

 

And Tannehill was sacked 46 times to Newton's 38...

 

Meanwhile, Tannehill finished 5th in NFL completion percentage, 11th in passing yards (4045)  and had a very respectable 92.8 NFL passer rating...

 

Tannehill is coming on...




#3207052 What does Gettleman do about Cam

Posted by TonyN on 15 January 2015 - 11:57 PM

So here the question I pose. Where did Cam rank this season? I'm not all about bashing Cam. I seen him will this team's to wins. My issue is his progression. To me he took a step back this year. So I'm Leary of the Panthers giving him a big contract. He won't be able to use his legs forever. That and his injuries give me concern. If he can become a realible passer. I would have no issues.

 

Well, you probably already know this, but Newton finished 26th in NFL passer rating and 29th in completion percentage.

 

Incidentally, he has never finished higher than 15th in NFL passer rating his entire career.

 

His mobility gives him a slight edge over other QB's who have nearly the same stats, but at the end of the day most NFL GM's coaches and media types don't believe that can continue on a long term basis.

 

But where Newton really fails is the eye test. He has glaring flaws as a QB that have been masked somewhat by his mobility, but these flaws have not gone away...indeed some of them seem to have grown.

 

No need to rehash those here...they are well known...but just to mention the tip of the iceberg, when have you ever heard a GM and a head coach talk about their QB's inconsistent fundamentals heading into his 5th full year as a starter???...I can't ever recall hearing anything like it concerning a player who has started 65 NFL games...




#3206248 What does Gettleman do about Cam

Posted by TonyN on 15 January 2015 - 01:42 PM

What's really hilarious is how many Huddlers are butt-hurt at the thought of Newton's camp being offered a team-friendly contract heavy on incentives and low on guaranteed money. These people would rather see the Panthers saddled with a contract they can't get out of rather than see a contract where Newton has to earn his money...insecurity perhaps ???

 

It's the same group of whiners who can't admit that Newton has already been passed by Luck, Wilson...shoot...look at the numbers...Ryan Tannehill just had as good a season as Newton has ever had. Compare Tannehill's first three years with Newton's first three years...it won't shock many if Newton is surpassed in the next couple of years by several other young QB's...Teddy Bridgewater has the same career passer rating as Cam Newton...

 

Meanwhile, Newton and his statistical doppleganger Andy Dalton just finished 25th and 26th in NFL passer rating...

 

 

 

 




#3203991 The Shula hate is overblown.

Posted by TonyN on 13 January 2015 - 09:02 PM

People always place their displeasure towards coaches.  Why?  Because we all think we can do what they do.  We know we can't block the other team's defensive end (as bad as Bell is, he'd kill any of us trying to rush the quarterback).  We know we can't cover and tackle opposing wide receivers (as slow as Roman Harper is, he's more athletic than any of us).

 

But most of us have played sports back in the day, and we watch a lot of it.  That automatically makes us experts in our own minds.

 

And you know what?  Some of us might have the instincts, knowledge, and work ethic to be an NFL coach (we're talking very small percentage).  But we aren't at practice every day, watching film on these guys, and we haven't lived the game like these guys.

 

I'm not a big Shula fan either. Just trying to point out some different viewpoints.

 

Sometimes lack of production is coaching. Sometimes it's players. I have a feeling this is a combination of both.  I guess it just depends on if you think you have someone better in mind, and if it would set the team back a step or two especially early in the year.

 

Our offensive line was green, undertalented and paper thin to begin with and then ravaged by injuries...for a few games we had no legitimate running back...we lost two wide receivers who wound up being big contributors elsewhere....our top wide out was a rookie... and our QB, whatever your excuse for him might be, took a huge step backwards in his fundamentals and his performance...and yet, at the end of the day, we had respectable offensive numbers...

 

But Shula is the worst OC in the history of football...

 

Sorry, doesn't compute...




#3203973 The Shula hate is overblown.

Posted by TonyN on 13 January 2015 - 08:47 PM

right and note that only two NFL teams liked what they saw enough to elevate him to OC or higher, the Bucs and Panthers, and he sucked for both.

 

He probably got promoted too early in Tampa, as he had never been higher than a TE coach at that time, but still considering his QB's in Tampa were Trent Dilfer and Shaun King...I'm not going to be too hard on him for his performance there...

 

I am not saying Shula is the greatest OC of all time, but he is competent and runs exactly the kind of offense the Panthers need to run to win given our personnel...
 




#3203738 The Shula hate is overblown.

Posted by TonyN on 13 January 2015 - 06:46 PM

there does seem to be a trend there.  

Chud was a lot more aggressive, but then you get that 10 yards rushing against Tampa type game because of it.

 

Do you remember in the Baltimore-Pats game Kubiak sending his fullback for a designed bomb---or Josh McDaniels sending his

 

slowest wideout, Amedola out on a trick play bomb ???...I mean who else would do stupid poo like that other than Shula...

 

If Shula had made either of those calls this board would be crucifying him...




#3203696 The Shula hate is overblown.

Posted by TonyN on 13 January 2015 - 06:26 PM

According to the Huddle:

 

Shula is "full retard"

Chud was "full retard"

Davidson was "full retard" and

Henning was "full retard".

 

That takes us back to I think 2002.

 

...according to the average Huddler, it's always the OC's fault.

 

They know because they play Madden...




#3201237 John Fox and Denver parting ways

Posted by TonyN on 12 January 2015 - 05:48 PM

This is pure speculation but i really believe that Peyton Manning wanted Adam Gase to be the Bronco's head coach. We'll soon see how this all plays out.

 

I don't think Manning liked the way Denver started running more late in the season.

 

The team started to take on more of a "Fox" identity and I am not sure Manning was on board with it.

 

Ultimately, what Manning wants, Manning gets. And I think he is going to play one more year and wants to do it with Gase as his head coach.

 

I could be wrong...we'll see...




#3201070 Discouraging Stat: Cam/Rivera 0-26 when trailing by 3+ in 4th Q

Posted by TonyN on 12 January 2015 - 04:27 PM

Ah screw it, this 0-26 stat probably has to do with Cam being a pouty crybaby unlike say Andrew Luck, who can will a team to a win just by clinching his butt really hard and concentrating.

 

Here is another interesting stat:

 

The Panthers under Cam/ Rivera are 4-27-1 when the opposition scores more than 20 points. (3-16 under Chud, 1-11-1 under Shula).

 

Meanwhile, the butt clinching Andrew Luck is 12-10 in games where the Colts' opposition scores more than 20 points....




#3199743 Pick your poison in the AFC Championship...

Posted by TonyN on 12 January 2015 - 01:47 AM

Who would you rather see advance to the Super Bowl???

 

The suddenly productive Huddle bugbear Brandon LaFell and the team that beat us in Super Bowl 38 ???

 

Or Colts special assistant Rob Chudzinski and "you know who" ???




#3199117 Nationwide is on your side, Colts @ Broncos

Posted by TonyN on 11 January 2015 - 08:48 PM

Did you know Wilson is 3-8 in games where SEA's defense has allowed more than 20 points? 20! 20 points is nothing for Luck.

 

Wow...interesting angle...

 

In games where their opponents score more than 20 points:

 

Wilson is 3-8

 

Newton is 3-27-1

 

And Luck is 12-10 !!!




#3198793 Nationwide is on your side, Colts @ Broncos

Posted by TonyN on 11 January 2015 - 07:28 PM

The only reason the Colts finished 1st in NFL passing offense, have won 2 playoff games and are heading to the AFC Championship game is because they play in the AFC South.




#3198679 Nationwide is on your side, Colts @ Broncos

Posted by TonyN on 11 January 2015 - 07:05 PM

Massive nuthugger inferiority complexes on full display here...




#3193175 Official Panthers at Seahawks divisional playoff GameDay Thread...

Posted by TonyN on 10 January 2015 - 09:24 PM

Wilson just gets luck and lucky and lucky until you finally realize he is freakin' good...




#3192015 The Divisional round begins " Patriots vs. Ravens "

Posted by TonyN on 10 January 2015 - 07:59 PM

Great throw, poor decision, classic NFL playoff game...