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#3127773 Is Sunday a must win for Ron to keep his job?

Posted by Sloth on 09 December 2014 - 06:25 PM

I disagree that we haven't seen improvement in 4 years from Ron.  His first season, Ron was very tepid, no fire, overly cautious.  Do you think Ron would be going for it on 4th and 1 in his first year of head coach?  No way.  His clock management has also improved.


Game prep?  You can't go 12-4 without good game prep.. that season shows he is capable if we have the capable talent on the roster.  This year we are extremely young, as we lose many veterans in the offseason.


Personnel decisions?  These young guys need to develop.  Where they are now is not where they were at the beginning of the season.  He is plugging guys like Andrew Norwell, Benwikere, etc, at the appropriate time and they are making impacts.  These guys have a better understanding of the playbook now, and more than likely would have made many mistakes if they were plugged in earlier in the season.  Let's remember John Fox, who would have played the veteran at all costs, and these young rookies would have never gotten the chance to show what they were made of this season. 


I applaud Ron for the job he's done, and think he definitely deserves another shot to right the ship next season.


He went one season where he wasn't overly cautious - 2013 - when he went into it a dead man walking because of what a poor job he had done in 2011 and 2012. His seat was on fire the entire season and he coached his ass off. The second he felt safe he went right back to over-conservative horseshit again and oh hey his 3rd losing season out of 4.


His personnel decisions have us at 4 wins in December. We're going to make our usual end of season/garbage time mini-run because everyone is talking about what an overall poor coach he is and he generally pulls his head out of his rectum and the players rally a little bit when that happens almost every single season since he got the job. If our division wasn't historically bad this year, we'd have been eliminated and talking draft before Thanksgiving.


He's been an absolute failure at HC so far. His ceiling - and this is if the guy completely coaches out of his mind - is Mike Smith/Marvin Lewis. 

#3083836 Panthers officials insist Cam Newton's MNF problems totally mental

Posted by Sloth on 12 November 2014 - 11:40 AM

Excuse me ?


You do know Keek is leading the league in tackles ?


I made it easy for you sloth just click here and see why Keek is "nothing special" this year.




In tackles, about the most useless stat going.


Also, why doesn't he elevate the defense? A true leader makes those around him better. We've invested most of our value draft resources on his side of the ball. We have a well-respected, defensive HC. Hell, his unit ranks 25th in the league (same rank as our dumpster fire offense!). We can't use the "surrounding talent" argument, because we're throwing that out for Newton. Maybe Luke just isn't the leader we all hoped he'd be.


As stupid an argument I just made, we still have mouth breathing fugtards making dumber ones in regards to the QB.

#3083726 Panthers officials insist Cam Newton's MNF problems totally mental

Posted by Sloth on 12 November 2014 - 10:22 AM

Cam apologists are so damn infuriating. Yes, he does not have support around him. But this is not a reason for a professional athlete getting paid as much as he does to snowball the way he does and let his attitude spiral downwards during games.


I love Cam and he is undoubtedly talented, but ask yourself in the last few games if you truthfully think his attitude of "here comes another sack - play over" is truly acceptable?


Its not what we saw last year when he had more protection and yes he's still only 25. But personally I wish I could see him act like a leader and raise the players around him when things aren't going well, rather then become insular and let his attitude spiral which undoubtedly has an impact on the attitude of the rest of the team. This is what I think defines a franchise quarterback, someone who can mask the deficiencies in different areas of the field - its why teams pay these guys so much because they mask the need to pay the weaker areas of the team.


And yet the excuse for Luke being nothing special this year is "Oh. Well, can't blame him, the DL sucks."

#3058441 Official Panthers - Saints Game Thread

Posted by Sloth on 30 October 2014 - 09:47 PM

Yeah, I'm normally a Newton homer but he's been pretty fuging bad the last couple of games. Yes, he's got a bad line. Yes, he's got slow, inconsistent receivers. Yes, his OC is a fuging bad joke. Yes, we're not doing much to help him. He's still playing like poo and not doing much outside of a handful of circus runs to pick up the team.


Depressing poo. This season has been completely deflating.

#3035610 Why don't we try out Micheal Sam?

Posted by Sloth on 21 October 2014 - 03:05 PM

This thread won't derail or contain a poo ton of homophobic horseshit. Calling it now.


He's small for a 4-3 DE right? I just remember a lot of DE vs LB talk pre-draft.

#3032781 the official "Dave Gettleman fuging sucks" thread

Posted by Sloth on 20 October 2014 - 10:32 AM

There may be worse fanbases but having dealt with this one for such a long time I can honestly say that panthers fans are some of the most uninformed out there. Nobody can pinpoint exactly what the problem is (which isn't too hard) when we lose games. Either they want everybody fired or they act like everybody's doing an all star job and treat mediocrity like it's the most coveted prize in the game.


Nah, all fan boards are the same. For most people, every one/thing is either all-pro or garbage that needs to be thrown out depending on the week. On the flip side you get the folks that circle the wagons until the very end (like the posters here that defended Hurney until the day he was fired, now poo all over him and are sitting on Gettleman's lap).


He deserves at least another year or two before you can really judge how he's doing for sure. Drafting seems a wash or slightly less than Hurney so far, but we haven't had a chance to see how he manages the money/contracts as he's stuck in a pretty poo situation there. He hasn't made any dumb contracts and he's 50/50 on building a team from scrap parts (good last season, terrible this season). So nothing really great and nothing horrible.

#3031907 Remaining schedules for us, the Saints, and the Falcons

Posted by Sloth on 19 October 2014 - 09:36 PM

We're going to have a tough time splitting with ATL and NO. If we do and get a little lucky versus CLE, I think we can make it to 8 wins.


Edit: 2 of our next 3 look like bad losses. I'm hoping we don't completely check out and can finish strong. Just please make it to 8 wins. Get that monkey off our back.

#3031826 pro bowl voting open

Posted by Sloth on 19 October 2014 - 09:19 PM

Olsen is probably the only guy deserving to date.

#3016292 NFL needs to redo the overtime rules...

Posted by Sloth on 12 October 2014 - 04:37 PM

I'd rather they just played another quarter and call the game at the end of it, but I'm mostly ok with what they have now. At least you can't eek out a drive to the 40 and win with a FG without the other team getting a shot any more. That was some fuging bullshit.

#2988882 White has been benched who should be next?

Posted by Sloth on 29 September 2014 - 04:07 PM

Norman has been named the starter next week already.


Marshall is probably already catching 10 yard outs, they just haven't started televising it yet.

#2987760 Week 4 PFF Grades for Offense & D + Cumulative

Posted by Sloth on 29 September 2014 - 10:26 AM

Bell and Chandler could have just fallen to the ground every snap and graded out slightly higher than that.

#2987676 Anderson is a better option than Cam right now

Posted by Sloth on 29 September 2014 - 09:58 AM

To anyone coming at this from a "I'm afraid Newton is going to get broken in half, we need to protect the long term investment" angle, I get you. I disagree, but I understand where you're coming from. You're getting lumped in with the folks who are hoping Anderson comes in and takes the job, which isn't really fair. We cool.


Anyone coming from the "Anderson is better" angle, I don't know what you're actually watching and am pretty sure most of you are seizing what you see as an opportunity to get rid of/bench Cam. Or trolling. You're never going to get that NCAA season back where $CAM broke your team in half. Sorry! Just speaking of performance, he's been very good as a pocket passer this year. His accuracy is great, he's yet to throw an INT, he's showing a nice mix of howitzers and touch balls and he's doing it with less of a run game and defense than Anderson had when he lucked out on a win in Tampa. You know it. Hell the media knows it, which is saying something. Prove that Anderson is a better player or stop wasting time on troll posts/threads.

#2986466 Poole - 1 carry - 1 lost fumble

Posted by Sloth on 28 September 2014 - 08:48 PM

Has everyone forgotten how Kenjon looked in preseason?


I don't know. I feel Barner crashing into the line and getting rag-dolled back over Newton's shoulder 8 - 10 times a game might just be the spark we need to get the offense purring.

#2986441 Why are there so many threads on Cam and the offense when our Defense is play...

Posted by Sloth on 28 September 2014 - 08:41 PM

I dont understand the point of still trying to be a ball control offense WHEN YOUR DOWN THREE DAMN SCORES.


Coaches get fired off that type of bull poo.


Yeah. When we came out and ran the ball twice in a row - with Darrin Reaves - after going down three scores, I kinds gave up on the game.

#2986335 Releasing Smith had the opposite of the desired effects

Posted by Sloth on 28 September 2014 - 08:15 PM

I don't know, if we had kept Smith and played him at Guard, Tackle and Defensive End, it may have been just enough to make us competitive out there today. It's definitely something to ponder.

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