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#3298547 FOX's Peter Schrager: "I expect Carolina to take a WR in the 1st R"

Posted by XClown1986 on 25 March 2015 - 11:31 AM

aaaaand this is why im not a talent evaluator. all i could see from his tape was him taking the top off of talented defenses and scoring touchdowns.


I see what you do for the most part. Dorsett reminds me eerily of Brandin Cooks. Same body type and ability. He knows how to run routes in addition to being a "fast guy." He is very tough and isn't afraid to take a hit over the middle, but is so elusive that he rarely takes a devastating blow anyway. I like him a lot but he would have to be utilized the right way because of his size. I see that as a guy that can take a drag route for 25+ yards in open space and a deep threat one-on-one. Let him get the ball in his hands quickly and make a play. 

#3298048 Gettleman on Sirius NFL Radio 3/24/2015

Posted by XClown1986 on 24 March 2015 - 09:24 PM

Oher played right in Super Bowl. 


I think he meant during that season he had played at LT some. His words, not mine.

#3297972 Gettleman on Sirius NFL Radio 3/24/2015

Posted by XClown1986 on 24 March 2015 - 08:13 PM

On free agency and the locker room:


- Still uses free agency to set up the team to be able to take best available player in the draft. Feels we are "darn close" to being able to do that.

- Not every guy can be a probowl player but you have to understand each player's niche and how that helps the team get better.

- Feels it is important to send a message to the locker room that if you play well and do the right things, we will take care of you (says this in reference to Greg Olsen's new deal).

- Says that last year when we were 3-8-1 if the locker room was toxic, we would have finished at 3-12-1. But we have a strong locker room that believes in Rivera and in what we do.


On Michael Oher:


- Not a good fit in Tennessee

- Oher has a great relationship with John Matzko and loves how he teaches techniques of the position

- Went back and watched 3 years of film on him and felt that coaching changes were an issue in his play along with injuries.

- Feels like there are two types of guys on your team when you win a Superbowl: Guys you win because of and guys you win in spite of. Really felt Oher was a guy the Ravens won because of (and he was playing left tackle during regular season).

- Feels very good about the signing and having him projected to start.


On Jonathan Stewart and running back depth:


- Feels Stewart really finished the season strong

- First time in 3 offseasons that Stewart hasn't had to have a surgery of any type.

- Really likes Fozzy. Loves his 3rd down abilities and credits his running ability as well.

- Understands depth is an issue but says it will be addressed in the draft (so we know we are targeting a RB at some point).


#3296656 Panthers interested in Landon Collins

Posted by XClown1986 on 23 March 2015 - 09:44 PM

Hmmm, first we workout Trae Waynes and now Landon Collins, both projected top 15 picks, could Gman really be considering trading up? What next, a workout with Amari Cooper?


No, but we did send Ricky Proehl to check out Devante Parker...

#3294666 The "Blue Goose" Prospect

Posted by XClown1986 on 22 March 2015 - 02:31 PM

Getting both Flowers and Dorsett would be a dream come true. If we could somehow snag Duke Johnson as well, I think that we'll be set at those positions for years to come


Miami fan?

#3294583 The "Blue Goose" Prospect

Posted by XClown1986 on 22 March 2015 - 01:13 PM

As we all know, Gettleman is a man that looks for the "blue goose" prospects in the first 2 rounds.  "Blue Goose" of course meaning players that have elite attributes about them. 


In his first draft he came away with Star Lotulelei and Kawann Shortt. Star was extremely athletic and powerful for a big man, and Kawann Short was the best interior pass rusher in the draft.


In his second draft he came away with Kelvin Benjamin and Kony Ealy. Kelvin of course was the 6'5 240 pound wideout with 10 inch hands that could be a matchup nightmare, and Kony Ealy was the most agile DE (6.83 cone drill) that could play both inside and outside.


So I ask you to take your opinions out of it and look at it strictly from this point of view: Who are the "blue goose" prospects that could be available at 25 and 57? Because those are the guys that Gettleman is going to draft. Keep in mind these guys have to have some attribute that is elite and they have to be able to contribute from day one.


I see a few guys that fit this profile, but I will edit later with my thoughts, I'm curious to hear yours.


**EDIT** Updated after reconsideration on a few players


To get this ball rolling I see these as the possible prospects at 25:


DE Arik Armstead

WR Devin Smith

OT TJ Clemmings

OT Ereck Flowers

RB Todd Gurley

CB Kevin Johnson



Some of the prospects that could be at 57:


WR Philip Dorsett

RB Tevin Coleman

DT Michael Bennett

WR Sammie Coates

RB Jay Ajayi

DE Preston Smith

CB Byron Jones

OT Jake Fisher



#3294546 Panthers talk to Greg Jennings

Posted by XClown1986 on 22 March 2015 - 12:54 PM

I don't know what all the hype is about. Yes, he's a veteran presence, and it checks the "name recognition" block as well, but other than that, Jennings is a shell of his former self.

I'd rather build through the draft and as much as I want to puke saying this.... Develop our young reciever corps


Averaging 750 yards and 5 touchdowns over the last two seasons with the VIKINGS?!


Sign me up for the "shell of Greg Jennings."

#3294537 Dex's OMG no OT in the first 5 rounds mock draft.

Posted by XClown1986 on 22 March 2015 - 12:44 PM

Like Ginn, Smith ran one route in college. Neither were complete WR's.

That is the comparison


He didn't only run one route. But he had great success with post routes and go routes, so they had him do what he was great at. Doesn't mean he can't run other routes. 


And honestly what routes do you think we want him to run if he comes here anyway? We will want him to take the top off of the defense, make the safeties hang back, and draw attention away from Olsen and Benjamin. 

  • Dex PIE'd this

#3294536 Dex's OMG no OT in the first 5 rounds mock draft.

Posted by XClown1986 on 22 March 2015 - 12:43 PM

Love the first two picks. 

  • Dex PIE'd this

#3294173 Panthers talk to Greg Jennings

Posted by XClown1986 on 22 March 2015 - 01:11 AM

Signing both Jennings and Ball would do wonders for the depth and competition of this team. I hope both signings happen.

#3288870 "Why the 49ers should move all in for Luke Kuechly in 2016"

Posted by XClown1986 on 17 March 2015 - 11:00 PM

This thread isn't about if we should do it. It's about the 9ers being in such desperation that this is what their beat writer is giving them. No one and I mean no one sees any realistic scenario that Luke isn't a panther for life.

The 9ers and the aints are dumpster fires. This "article" by their beat writer shows the state of desperation. That is all. It's amusing. Enjoy it.


Yeah it's pathetic and horrific what those two teams are going through right now. And it gives me the warm fuzzies inside. 

#3288833 "Why the 49ers should move all in for Luke Kuechly in 2016"

Posted by XClown1986 on 17 March 2015 - 10:29 PM

ok, but what if some team offers him a ridiculous deal that the Panthers can't match or chose not to match given gettleman's reputation for not giving out huge deals, then what? 


the last thing I'd want is to lose luke to free agency without anything in return. 


We can put the 5th year option on him and franchise him twice without even flinching from the cost. I don't think Luke wants to go anywhere anyway. He is an old school guy and we are building something special here. 


Plus The Gettle-father will make him an offer he can't refuse.

#3287398 Panthers Are Signing Safety Kurt Coleman Per Voth

Posted by XClown1986 on 17 March 2015 - 12:13 AM

To be fair, he could start.  Tre Boston isn't a guarantee to start there.  


Boston is locked in unless he shits the bed in training camp or gets hurt. Harper is another story.

#3285401 Carolina Panthers 3 Round Mock - Mid March Edition

Posted by XClown1986 on 15 March 2015 - 01:52 PM

Who's the more complete receiver, in your mind?

Devin Smith. 
The size numbers really aren't that different, Devin Smith is 6'1 200 and Jaelen Strong is 6'2 215.
Devin Smith is just faster. Flat out faster. He knows how to get open against any type of coverage and often finds himself alone or a few steps behind a defender. This happens against teams like Michigan St. too, so it's not like he is torching scrubs. 
He is also more quick twitch than Strong. He can stop on a dime and pull away in another direction (there was a great example of this in a game, I'll try to find it). **Edit** It was against Indiana.
Hands are about even. If they are fighting for the ball in the air, they usually come down with it. Devin Smith did have an Odell Beckham-esque catch in the endzone against Miami OH that was by far the most impressive catch either of them caught in college.
People knock Devin Smith because of the lack of receptions and because he mostly went vertical, but this guy was only doing what he was asked to do. Ohio St. ran the football A LOT. And rightfully so, because Ezekial Elliott is a stud. However, Devin Smith did more with his opportunities than Strong did.
Strong - 82 receptions, 1182 yards, 10 TDs
Smith - 32 receptions, 882 yards, 12 TDs
The difference is staggering. Put Smith in a pass-first offense and Smith might go Top 5. 
Strong is a good receiver, don't get me wrong. But I see him more as a Jordan Matthews type guy. Better in the slot, will get the jump ball, doesn't offer much after the catch. Nothing wrong with that. As long as you don't take him in round 1.
Devin Smith has the potential to be a bigger Desean Jackson without the off-field issues. With some development, he can be a star player, not a role player.

#3284798 Saints lose a fan

Posted by XClown1986 on 14 March 2015 - 08:06 PM

She was precious. Poor kid.