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Mr. Scot

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#586452 Not many things are off limits...

Posted by Mr. Scot on 10 May 2010 - 10:26 PM

Ya know, I always find it sad when bigots try to paint themselves as somehow different from, or superior to, other bigots.

Sorry guys, but you're no different. Your ideas put you on the same mental and philosophical plane as any racist, sexist, homophobe or other bigot.

You want to spin it so that your prejudice is justified? Guess what? So does every other bigot. Their arguments all essentially break down to "that's just how it really is".

And likewise, you project your beliefs on others with some form of "everybody else is too stupid to get it" or "everyone else thinks this way too but just won't admit it".

Sad :nonod:

By accepting those ideas, you've put yourself in the same category as the KKK, the Aryan nation and the Westboro Baptist Church.

Your ideas and thought processes are no different than theirs. You just chose a different target.

And that's truthfully the only difference I've ever found between one bigot and another.

#585901 Not many things are off limits...

Posted by Mr. Scot on 10 May 2010 - 03:33 PM

I think rodeo (and I am sure those trying to question him also know this, but just see the opportunity to jump on the bash-rodeo wagon) was saying that if you use your child as a pallette for you to paint your beliefs and values upon (not saying that is what Kasay did, nor that every parent doesn't have the right to do so), then you should fully accept the fact that someone that doesn't believe or value the same things has a right to make a mockery of it...

I saw the thread before it went downhill, and honestly, I think those hurling the accusations of religious bigotry here are the ones who actually brought it upon themselves...

Where this went wrong was someone decided we cared what the hell John Kasay's daughter was doing... It was irrelevant to Panthers discussions, and had nothing to do with football...

You may as well just come out and admit you're okay with bigotry as long as it's against religious people. You've as much as said it, and Rodeo has signed on ro that notion plenty.

For me, it doesn't matter how much someone differs from me. NOBODY'S children are fair game. NOBODY'S!

Being willing to allow for someone's children to be assailed just because that person has differing beliefs from you says some pretty crappy things about a person's character :nonod:

#584574 Octoninophobia

Posted by Mr. Scot on 08 May 2010 - 02:01 PM

Have some sensitivity. There are people suffering from this.

(granted, most on this board probably aren't)

At the very least, this might help explain Florio's behavior.

#584569 Octoninophobia

Posted by Mr. Scot on 08 May 2010 - 01:55 PM

Found this on WebMD. I had no idea it was a recognized medical condition.

Octoninophobia (äk-tō-nē-nō-fō-bē-ə) n.

Definition: The fear of the number ‘89’, also sometimes referred to as “Smittophobia”.

Symptoms: Inability to use telephones, computers, calculators or any other device with a keyboard or keypad. Victims of this phobia tend to freeze and become fearful when they see the numbers ‘8’ and ‘9’ next to each other. The condition can also occur while reading newspapers, books or magazines and sometimes manifests itself in places such as supermarkets, city streets or anywhere the number ‘89’ is printed. Some victims have been prone to nightmares involving the number.

Cause: The condition is caused by exposure to wide receiver Steve Smith of the National Football League’s Carolina Panthers from an opposing standpoint. As such, it tends to be unique to professional athletes who play defensive positions in the NFL. It is most often found among those who play the position of cornerback or safety, but has been known to affect other defensive players as well as opposing coaches and even some fans of other teams.

A geographical element has been noted by those studying the spread of this condition. The most common place where the phobia has been known to originate is Charlotte, North Carolina. However, outbreaks have been seen in several other cities. Particular concentrations have been found in the cities of Atlanta, Georgia; New Orleans, Louisiana; and Tampa, Florida.

History: The first diagnosis of Octoninophobia was recorded in early November of 2005. Patient Zero was Fred Smoot, at that time a cornerback for the Minnesota Vikings. Smoot was assigned to cover Smith during a game between the Vikings and Panthers played at Bank of America Stadium (the Panthers home field) on October 30, 2005, and had engaged in “trash talking” (i.e. speaking in a manner belittling the playing skills of an opponent) of Smith prior to the event.

During the game, Smith badly embarrassed Smoot several times, finishing the day with 11 receptions for 201 yards and a touchdown. The day was worsened for Smoot by an end zone celebration in which Smith pretended to row a boat. (This was done to reference a scandal that had broken regarding the behavior of several Vikings players on a pleasure cruise earlier that year.) All in all, it was a very rough day for Smoot as the combination of Smith’s receiving work and end zone celebration left him severely shaken.

Although teammates reportedly noticed something wrong with Smoot immediately after the game, the condition was not officially diagnosed until a few days later. Smoot sought help from medical professionals after discovering that he was unable to dial his cell phone without becoming fearful. Doctors were able to trace the problem back to the prior weekend’s game and its results. Unfortunately for Smoot, they were unable to offer any assistance and advised him he would likely just have to learn to live with the symptoms.

Smith’s performance in the Vikings game had set a Panthers franchise record for receiving yards. However, that record was broken by Smith later the same season during a playoff game at Chicago’s Soldier Field. This game was the first known mass outbreak of Octoninophobia, as several members of the Chicago Bears defense were diagnosed with the condition shortly afterward. When asked a post-game question by a reporter about what had happened, Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher responded, “What happened to us? Steve Smith happened to us!” Doctors made the official diagnoses in the week that followed.

Since 2005, numerous players and coaches have been diagnosed as suffering from Octoninophobia. More recently, another Minnesota Vikings cornerback, one Benny Sapp, fell victim in a similar manner to that which had affected Fred Smoot. Sapp had reportedly tried to tell Smith “who he was” during a game and became afflicted with the condition as a result of the performance by Smith that followed. Reached for comment, Smith indicated that this might have been avoided had Sapp simply understood “the rules and regulations of the game”.

The cases of Smoot and Sapp have helped to provide some insight into possible prevention methods. Doctors at first thought it might be peculiar to Vikings players, but this theory was thrown out due to various other teams also suffering outbreaks. One case was found where a writer for a sports website showed some symptoms of the condition (though as of this date the diagnosis has not yet been confirmed by medical professionals). It was eventually determined that behavior tends to factor into causation, and doctors have taken this into account while trying to find a permanent cure and/or preventive steps.

Treatment: As of this date, there is no known cure for Octoninophobia. Treatment generally consists of measures attempting to comfort the victims. The outlook for a complete cure is grim, thus far. Officials at the Center for Disease Control do not expect the spread to be abated until Smith retires from professional football, and even then some question how long the effects might linger. In the meantime, support groups have been established in several NFL cities.

Prevention: Although exposure to Smith from a defensive standpoint results in a high likelihood of contracting Octoninophobia for those who are forced to cover him, there are ways to minimize the risk.

First, it is suggested that anyone assigned such duties refrain from engaging in “trash talk” prior or during to the contests. Studies show that those who choose to "trash talk" tend to suffer worse affliction than others. Therefore, this course of action is to be avoided. Those who engage in such behavior do so at their own risk.

It can also be wise to ask for help from teammates, as those who attempt to cover Smith one-on-one are also more prone to suffering from this condition. If all else fails, opposing players can escape exposure by faking an injury prior to the game. While this may be considered dishonorable, it is the only prevention method that has proven 100% effective to date.

One final suggestion: Know the rules and regulations of the game. It can mean the difference between a normal life and one spent trying to avoid numbers that play a prominent role in everyday society.

#583092 Armanti Edwards our new Ricky Proehl???

Posted by Mr. Scot on 06 May 2010 - 09:10 PM

Az-Zahir Hakim couldn't sniff Ricky Proehl jock.

Proehl played 17 season and had 7 of those season he had more yardage than Hakims best of 9 season.

Proehl was a stud and a great slot receiver. Hakim was adequate.

I would love to see Edwards do the things in the slot until Smitty retires and then move out to the #1 spot.

Bingo. Hakim was just a quick slot guy that benefited from playing alongside; Warner, Faulk, Holt, and Bruce all in their primes. People literally forgot to cover him.

Think style, not substance.

Proehl was a big, strong guy with a knack for finding the soft spots in coverage. That's not Edwards profile at all.

Edwards is a small, fast guy with the athleticism to exploit mismatches and also do some return work, like Hakim.

Hakim could arguably have been more successful had he stayed where he was rather than trying to be a number two elsewhere. The question that will come with time is will Edwards have that limitation or be successful enough to be another Steve Smith type?

We'll see.

#582125 Lawrence Taylor arrested...

Posted by Mr. Scot on 06 May 2010 - 12:07 PM

North Carolina State:

http://www.urbandict... Carolina State (#5) :biggrin:

I thought you were referencing this: (link)

#581281 Mike Vick is Back According to Andy Reid

Posted by Mr. Scot on 05 May 2010 - 09:05 PM

I think he looks great. You saw him today,” coach Andy Reid said. “He’s working with the second group. Any time he gets into trouble, he’s out of there. You see his quickness and speed back. He’s throwing the ball confidently.”

I ran this through Babelfish. Here's the translation:

Come on. Somebody PLEASE trade us something for him. Please? He's really great. I swear he is. Surely a 3rd round pick isn't too much to ask for a guy this good, is it?

#577408 Manly Clausen pic

Posted by Mr. Scot on 03 May 2010 - 10:41 AM

by clubbin' them over the head, and draggin' them away by their hair?

Wrong guy. That one plays for the Steelers.

#576180 Minicamp: Saturday Observations

Posted by Mr. Scot on 02 May 2010 - 12:46 AM



Lot of fun had by the team during the stretching drills run by Jerry Simmons.

Early on, DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart weren’t taking part, and apparently decided to do a little “freestyle” stretching that looked like something out of a bad ballet class. Seeing this, Trainer Ryan Vermillion walked over and said “34, blend in”. After a polite grin and shrug, Williams joined in the “standard” stretching routine.

In the later session, while everyone else was following Jerry Simmons instructions (like a giant game of Simon Says), back in the back, JJ Jansen, Jason Baker, John Kasay and Steve Smith looked like they were practicing synchronized swimming with no water.

Matt Moore and Jimmy Clausen were gabbing during the stretches. Hunter Cantwell and Tony Pike were on their own. Don’t read anything into that though. The quarterback club spent plenty of time all together today.

Although I have no idea why, after some time spent in the morning stretch, Jerry Simmons called for everyone’s attention and yelled “Let’s have a round of applause for Schwartzie”. A round was indeed given, with a chuckle or two. Would love to know what was behind all that.


As mentioned, dave Magazu was a rather unhappy person today. After one badly run drill, he simply stopped and didn’t say a word. The whole OL group just kind of stood there looking uncomfortable. A little later, another miscue prompted a private whispered convo with Duke Robinson. I was able to make out the word “dumbass” though I didn’t get the impression he was applying that to Robinson as teammates who heard it laughed. Shortly thereafter, Magazu flatly said “There’s a reason for this s—t.”

The angriest moment? Probably when someone had a rough time hitting the sled. Like Baker yesterday, Magazu pointed out that a blocking sled doesn’t hit back. He added that if they couldn’t move a blocking sled, what was going to happen when they were facing a 300 pound defensive tackle? In short, he said if you get rejected by a blocking sled, you’ve got no chance.

On the flipside, When OL Coach Dave Magazu wanted someone to show the young guys the right way to do a drill, he chose center Ryan Kalil. Magazu told the assembled linemen “Watch here while Ryan shows you all how to do this right.” Indeed he did, and I was reminded watching him of just how mobile he is for a big, solid blocker.

Also, couldn’t tell you who it was, but one of the Uglys let out a loud belch during OL drills. I think the guys might have wanted to laugh, but probably were afraid to given the general mood Magazu was in.

And one kind of fun moment for me in the morning session: I was standing on the hill behind where the OL drills were being run and taking notes. Jordan Gross and Jeff Otah were off to the side talking. Right as I happened to look at Otah, he happened to look back. He stared at me for a few seconds, then gave me a little nod and smiled. I returned the acknowledgement.

Couldn’t help but wonder if he was simply being friendly to a fan or if he somehow knew how many times I’d referred to him as a “Big Ugly”. If so, it’s nice to know he’d rather smile at me than break me in half. Occurred to me that he might have gotten a tip from Jordan Gross about an earlier conversation (more about that later).


No practice is complete without Steve Smith faking someone out of his shorts. Today’s victim of underwear loss was Brian Witherspoon.

Dexter Jackson is extremely quick and can turn on a dime. He’ll need more than that to be a solid receiver, but it’s a start.

As mentioned, fair number of drops today. Saw Kenny Moore drop a few. A little worried about him.

C J Wilson got a good amount of playing time at corner today.

Nice day for Captain Munnerlyn. He stayed stride for stride with Steve Smith on a pass that was overthrown. He also broke up a fade route that was aimed at Dwayne Jarrett. Later heard Munnerlyn say Jarrett had tried to push him off.

Little doubt that Eric Norwood will be used to rush the passer from the DE spot plenty this year, even if he’s mainly an LB.

Another play, a goal line drill, saw Charles Godfrey get in Smitty’s way on a crossing route. Smitty pulled the towel from his waist band and threw it like a penalty flag.

More than one of the goal line plays today would have been sacks had the pads been on.

Trent Guy caught a nice pass from Matt Moore. He’s got some skills.

Duke Robinson wound up flopped all over somebody on one scrimmage play. I felt sorry for that guy.

Young punter Blake Haudan boomed some nice kicks today.

Also practicing punt returns today: Trent Guy, Wallace Wright, Brian Witherspoon.

Charley Martin made a diving catch on a pass that elicited cheers from teammates.

The linebackers and defensive linemen joined together today to work on stripping the ball.

I’ve noticed Steve Smith chats with John Kasay a lot. Not terribly surprising given they’re the longest tenured guys on the team. They’ve been through a lot together.

Bit of offense/defense rivalry showing. When Matt Moore called off a play saying “Whoa, whoa. whoa, whoa”, some of the defensive guys mimicked him, a tad mockingly.

Last play of the day: Moore had dropped back for a pass, but one of the O-Linemen stepped too close and he wound up tripping. It was a fitting end to a generally off day.


As a final note, I had a chance to talk to some players I hadn’t had the pleasure of meeting before. Among them, Jon Beason, DeAngelo Williams and Jordan Gross. All were very nice and quite friendly.

Jokingly asked Beason what position he played. He replied “Center” to which I said “That explains the fifty number.”

To Williams, who wasn’t wearing a jersey, I said “Do you play for this team?” He chuckled and said “occasionally”.

And Mr. Gross? Told him it was nice to meet the Chief of the Big Uglys. His answer? “That’s a nice title.”

(my work is done) :)

#576179 Minicamp: Saturday Observations

Posted by Mr. Scot on 02 May 2010 - 12:45 AM

Hate to say it, but for my money the team in general looked a little off today, especially the quarterbacks. Happily, it’s still just minicamp. That doesn’t mean everything was negative, mind you, but overall it was rather blah.

What I saw in the practices today...


As was covered on Panthers.com, some fans decided to have a little tailgate outside the practice today. I had to chuckle when I walked up and saw the setup they had. A few of the players even took part, getting a snack or two.

Like yesterday, Jerry Richardson came out for the afternoon practice, but not the morning one. He spent pretty much all his time on the cart talking to Marty Hurney.

Team president Danny Morrison was out again, making friends and handing out rosters. In each of the three practices I attended, I was given a roster. Twice, it was Morrison who gave it to me. Have to appreciate the work he’s doing.

Also saw Brian Baker walk up and have a fan ask if his guys were ready. His response? “We have four months to get ready” (aaaahhh, that’d be a no).

Steve Smith signed a few pre-practice autographs.

Jon Beason, Jamar Williams and Mortty Ivy all came running up together. Fox came up behind, commenting to fans “I think they’re too busy to stop for autographs.”

Dexter Jackson has kind of a strange, 19th century looking beard.

Louis Leonard has a gap in his front teeth, though nowhere near as large as that other guy who’s known for a gappy grin (what was his name again…I forget…)

Rookie corner R J Stanford has some words tattooed on his neck. Didn’t get a good enough look to see what they said.

Hard to miss Tony Pike when he walks up since he’s the only non-lineman who’s 6’6”.

Gamble no longer has any dreads (not sure when he lost them).

And just as a side note, it’s actually kind of amusing watching guys try to walk normally on a sidewalk wearing cleats.


Jonathan Stewart out as usual. He practices less than Allen Iverson, but plays as well as Iverson in his prime on game day too.

DeAngelo Williams also not in the mix, and no Thomas Davis today.

The Tyler boys - Brayton and Tank - sat out of the D-Line work, though Brayton spent a fair amount of time in one session working against a tackling dummy on his own.

(at one point I think it must have trash-talked him or something because I saw him grab it and knee it in the nuts)


First pass of the day that I saw was an overthrow from Cantwell aimed at Kenny Moore. In a way, that set the tone for the practices to come. Quarterbacks were off target pretty much all day. Too high, too low, wide left, wide right…You name it, they threw it. In fairness to the QBs, more than a few passes that actually were on target wound up being dropped. But still, it just wasn’t their day.

Best looking QB of the day? You could make an argument it was Jimmy Clausen. While Clausen had his off moments too, he also had some where he looked brilliant. He’s not as slow to react as yesterday, and on one play threw a brilliant fake (by brilliant I mean that it fooled me). He also at one point put a bullet of a pass in Jeff King’s gut that I’m surprised didn’t go right through him. As mentioned though, he wasn’t immune from mistakes, among them a bad choice on a pass play that resulted in a pick by Chris Gamble.

The broad gap of superiority Moore had yesterday was lessened today. Was Moore still largely better? Maybe, but he had a day full of overthrows, miscommunication, and grounders. One particularly bad miscue led to a pickoff by Sherrod Martin that he enthusiastically ran back. That play was one I’m sure he’d like to have back.

Before you bail on Moore though, you should take note of something else that happened today.

After a rather badly thrown pass, Moore’s demeanor and body language took a rather sharp turn. He looked extremely pissed off - apparently at himself - and when he stepped to the line for the next play, things were a little different. It started with his cadence, which was louder and more authoritative, and continued with his execution. On each of the next four plays I watched, Moore was efficient and his passes were crisply thrown and on target.

Bottom Line: The quarterback position will be fun to watch come time for training camp.

Additional QB Notes:

Coach Rip Scherer had the guys practicing some subtle hand and head fakes in individual drills.

Matt Moore’s head swivels a lot more than the other QBs. The others tend to focus in one direction.

Clausen’s mechanics are incredibly precise. Watch him throw the ball twenty times and the last one will look exactly like the first one.

Tony Pike was the only quarterback I saw do much scrambling today. The others all tended toward straight dropbacks.

Pike had a nice toss or two, but he’s not in the class of Moore or Clausen at this point. Right now, he looks like he’s competing for a roster spot. That could change, of course. We’ll see.


Runningback duties today were split between new acquisition Josh Vaughan (#40) who looked decent, and Mike Goodson. Didn’t see Tyrell Sutton out there. Could have been hurt, but I hadn’t heard anything. Just as likely the team has seen what they need to see and decided to take a look at Mike Goodson.

Unknown whether Goodson believes his job is in danger, but he worked hard today to give the team a lot to think about. That’s a good thing, honestly. It’s better if Goodson can show himself to be a contributor since it gives the team more options and it means they didn’t waste a draft pick when they took him.

As to Dwayne Jarrett, saw more good than bad from him today. He had a really nice spinning catch during scrimmage. During goal line drills he rolled Charles Godfrey after Godfrey got in his way on a route (didn’t look like it took much effort).

Jarrett’s still firmly in the number two receiver spot, and will likely remain there until further notice barring unforeseen developments. Preseason will probably be what tells the tale, as he’s been known at times to look better in practice than against actual competition. Stay tuned.


Armanti Edwards continues to impress. One of the better visuals of the day came when Hunter Cantwell threw a pass a little behind him. Edwards caught it with one hand (his left) right on his hip. Like yesterday, nothing that came close to him hit the ground while I was watching. He could be the real deal, but then as the saying goes, lots of guys do well in shorts and not so well in pads.

Brandon LaFell had some flashes, especially on one really nice long pass from Clausen. One pass that was thrown high to him went off his hands. He’ll need to pull those down if he really wants to be the guy. Overall not bad, though. He still doesn’t quite stand out like Edwards, but his game speed is good and I have some hope that he’ll be impressive come time for training camp.

Caught a little of the work being done by Jordan Pugh and Aaron Francisco. They’re certainly athletic, but safety is a tough position to evaluate with no pads. Credit to Francisco for at one point recognizing a gap in the defensive formation and pointing it out.


One thing you notice if you spend any time watching Jeff Davidson is that he’s always teaching. In-between each play, Davidson has something to say, and it’s usually a lot.

Defensive offsides on an early scrimmage play made Brian Baker blow a gasket.

Speaking of Baker, while he still spent a fair share of words on Ed Johnson, he spread the ‘tough love” around plenty today. Among his other targets, Corvey Irvin, Louis Leonard and Greg Hardy. Everette Brown still seems to be his favorite pupil at the moment.

Over on the offensive side, OL coach Dave Magazu was pretty tough on Rob Petitti and Steve Justice today. To be fair though, he was an unhappy man in general. Magazu is one of those guys who isn’t loud, but gets verrrrry precise with his words when he’s angry.

Caught sight of new receiver coach Tyke Tolbert showing his guys how to run routes. Had heard about him doing that.

Tolbert was also very vocal and effusive in his praise when they did something right. He very loudly praised Wallace Wright once, yelling “That’s how you run a route! I see you Wallace! Sweet!”

Tolbert’s preferred spot in scrimmage? Deep middle, watching the receiving routes.

Got a look at Jeff Rodgers working with the special teamers, but wasn’t close enough to perceive much of anything about what was going on.

LB Coach Richard Smith might well be just as intense as DL Coach Brian Baker, but given where the linebackers tend to practice, from my vantage point it’s not as easy to see him except from a ways off.

#575577 The mini camp thread...

Posted by Mr. Scot on 01 May 2010 - 12:11 PM

Five more pages of notes to digest later. Heading back for the afternoon session.

#575575 Minicamp: Morning Session

Posted by Mr. Scot on 01 May 2010 - 12:08 PM

Hey Mr. Scot, noticed the guy there with the notepad but didn't know it was you. I was the big guy wearing the blue Panthers polo, will introduce myself if I see you out there today - always enjoy your write ups.

Was it Marcus Walker or "THE" Marcus Hudson that almost picked off Clausen? I remembered the guy wearing # 25 and when I looked at the roster sheet Danny Morrison handed out it said Marcus Hudson?

Pretty sure it was 24. Saw him a lot yesterday.

What a rep *****.

Ya got me.

#575213 The wit and wisdom of Brian Baker

Posted by Mr. Scot on 01 May 2010 - 12:28 AM

Quotes from DL Coach Brian Baker in the morning minicamp session...


(during a drill) "I thought you were defensive linemen. What are you doing?"

(watching the guys hit the sled) "Guys, it's a blocking sled. It doesn't hit back."

(to Greg Hardy) "Get your eyes up! Don't run with your eyes down! See what's in front of you!"

(after a badly executed defensive scrimmage play) "Follow the ball! FOLLOW THE BALL!"

(another drill) "This is supposed to be a pass rush drill. Where is the pass rush?"

(in a very exasperated tone) "Can somebody please get off a block?!"

(yet another drill) "Look at the target. See the target. Hit the target!'

(said more than once, loudly) "Go! GO! GOOOOOOOO!!!"

(best of the day) "You're tired, huh? Well, you're tired because you're FAT!!!"


Baker is a quote machine during practices :lol:

#575175 Minicamp: Morning Session

Posted by Mr. Scot on 30 April 2010 - 11:38 PM

Mods: This is a pretty long post (had to be separated to fit) so I thought I'd set it as its own thread. Feel free to merge if you prefer though (I'll leave that up to you)

On the defensive side of the ball, aside from noting Thomas Davis running, the guy you notice first on the defense is Jon Beason. Like Smith, there seems to be no such thing as half speed in his repertoire. When the defense was running drills to the corner of the end zone, Beason stood out as running hard. James Anderson, Charles Johnson, Eric Norwood and fellow rookie Jordan Pugh also all looked to be giving it their best effort.

Eric Norwood looks pretty fast on the field. Saw him lined up at DE a time or two in drills, but he worked out with the linebackers, not the D-Line. He had a nice rush on one play that probably would have wound up a sack at game speed.

Speaking of stops, Charles Johnson had a good one early. He sniffed out a screen and stopped it cold. Johnson and Brayton look slotted to be the starting DEs at this point, with Brown working in the second unit. Again, that’s not necessarily an indication of anything, but it makes some sense as a rotation.

This year’s winner of the Marlon Favorite award for being DL Coach Brian Baker’s whipping boy might be Ed Johnson. His last cut from the Colts was for performance reasons, not character concerns. It’s only day one, but from what I’ve seen so far, that cut may have been justified. In drills, Johnson was consistently a half to a full step slower than his defensive line mates. He may get better with time, but today was definitely not his day.

On the flipside, Baker’s (not Marlon) favorite pupil today was second year DE Everette Brown.

Also of note, late year acquisition Derek Landri looked decent in drills and scrimmage.

Rookie DE Greg Hardy looks very tall and strong, but seemed a little tentative in practice. He wasn’t that explosive hitting the sleds for the most part. At one point, he got yelled at by one of the defensive coaches (Baker, I think) for running with his eyes down rather than looking where he was going. Not sure whether he’s still rehabbing injury or maybe just had an iffy first day of his transition to the pros. Either way, hope he gets better.

As expected, Charles Godfrey and Sherrod Martin started at strong and free safety. I noticed Martin close in fast on an early play (probably would have been a solid stop in a game). Both were all over the place in practice. We’ll need that to compete in today’s pass happy NFL. Watching them at camp, you can get an idea of why the team went this route. Hope it pays the dividends they’re looking for.

At corner, Captain Munnerlyn was starting in Richard Marshall’s spot.

Of the various special teamers that signed, the one who looked like he might have the best shot of contributing elsewhere was Marcus Walker. Saw him in on a fair share of defensive plays today.

If I’m being perfectly honest, I thought the defense as a whole looked a tad disorganized today. There was a lot of yelling and complaints from defensive coaches, especially baker and LB coach Richard Smith. This time of year, it’s usually the offense that looks out of synch. And yes, they had their moments, but overall they looked better than the defense did.

Special Teams: Not much of note. Munnerlyn, Dexter Jackson and the previously mentioned Armanti Edwards were the guys fielding punts. Baker was okay, but shanked a few (wind may have caught them; it was strong). Didn’t see anyone drop one that got close to them. Jackson caught one on a bounce.

Coaching Note: Brian Baker and Dave Magazu are both good at what they do, but very different. If being coached by Baker is like being hit upside the head with an alumimum baseball bat, Magazu's style is the wooden bat. It doesn't make as loud a noise, but it can crack you just as hard.

Post Practice:

Duke Robinson walked out with no shoe on his right foot. Don’t know why. It served to distract attention from the enormous melon he carries on his shoulders. I’m amazed they found a helmet to fit him.

Everette Brown walked out with DL coach Brian Baker, still pumping him for info. He’s definitely an eager pupil. I was hoping to see the Mohawk I’d heard mentioned before, but it looks like he’s decided to just go with a conventional buzz cut.

QB coach Rip Scherer was gabbing with someone on the way out. I overheard him saying “Yeah, I tried to change that with Matt. He’s better at it now.” Would love to know what he was talking about.

Smitty actually stopped to sign a few autographs. He got most of the crowd that was there and chatted a bit, but prior to the last few he said “No, I’m done. I’m tired of signing” and trotted off.

In prior years, Jake Delhomme was always the guy who worked the crowd the most, engaging as many as he could. That duty has fallen to Matt Moore now, and he took to it well, being very friendly and courteous to well-wishers.

I had a chance to speak briefly with Moore, and took the opportunity to say one thing: “Just remember, the coach can make you the starter, but it’s up to you to become the leader.” He seemed to like that, as he broke into a broad grin and said “That’s right. That’s absolutely right. Thanks.” Before heading off.

Claussen was one of the last ones out, and had someone hurrying him along the whole time. Even so, he was friendly, courteous and accommodating to autograph seekers. Of all the signers, he was the only one I heard ask for names and personalize his autographs. He doesn’t come off as standoffish at all.

Last guy out was Armanti Edwards. Not sure if he and Claussen were working on something or just talking to the media (probably the latter). He’s a bit more clean-shaven now and looks like a high school kid in the face. Some folks asked for him to stop but he was being rushed onto a golf cart to head up to the stadium and told everyone he was running late, but said thanks for the support.

Didn’t get to attend the evening session, but read a tweet from Gantt that said some former players showed up. Planned to look that up as soon as I finished writing this.

(which I now have) :D

#575174 Minicamp: Morning Session

Posted by Mr. Scot on 30 April 2010 - 11:37 PM

Observations from the morning session...

Early start this year. Prior camps have gotten started right around 10am. This year, I pulled up around 9:40 and the field was already full of players.

First sight I saw when I walked up to the entrance was Claussen running up the sidewalk to the field. Also saw LaFell and others of our new draftees, but Claussen was the only one booking it.

Initial observations: Ed Johnson is round, really round. Similarly, but better, Tank Tyler lives up to his name. Pike is tall, and has a buzz cut. As Kenny Moore was walking up, one of the fans said “Go Independence” and elicited a smile. Also noticed John Kasay walking up talking with trainer Ryan Vermillion. Don’t know that I’d read much into that, but it was noteworthy. The rest of the special teams crew rolled up later. Next to the other players, they look like members of Best Buy’s “Geek Squad”.

Marty Hurney was out watching the action early, and looked please when he left.

A little after I got there, new team president Danny Morrison came out and made a real effort to engage the fans who were outside the fences (never recall the prior team pres. even so much as acknowledging the fans). I got the chance to say hello and he made sure I had a copy of the roster sheet (I already had one printed from online, but his was better). He seems to be taking his job seriously and really wants to spark some excitement in the team. Lots of credit to him.

Fair number of people out to watch, and oddly a lot of non-player people were inside the fence today. Someone mentioned they were people who had paid to be part of some special media thing. I don’t know the full deal there.

At the last camp, I remember noting how odd it was to not see Nick Goings out there. That feeling was multiplied this season. No Delhomme, no Peppers, no Hoover, and no Muhammad. Kemo, Lewis and of course, Harris, all gone too, but none of them were as longstanding as those four.

It really hit me just how different things are now the first time I heard Matt Moore call out “52 is the Mike”. That first call was always Delhomme’s voice before. No longer.

It’s worth noting too that I’ve heard Moore calling out the Mike LB before, but he sounded different doing it this year; louder, more authoritative. Perhaps he’s really taken it to heart that this is his team, now. If so, that’s a good thing. He’ll need that mindset if he’s going to succeed as a signal caller.

Speaking of voices, Jeff Davidson sounded gruff today too. Jerry Simmons was loud too, but that’s nothing new.

Last year, one of the first things I heard was Ron Meeks yelling out “Where’s Richard Marshall? Where’s Richard Marshall? Is he running?” Meeks didn’t bother asking where Marshall was today.

From departures to returns. Early on caught sight of Thomas Davis running around with the defense. Just drills, mind you, but he didn’t look like someone who’d suffered a major injury. Gross, Otah, Williams and Stewart were all on the field but not taking part. Stewart didn’t even stretch. Corvey Irvin was taking part in DL drills but had to stop at one point and get stretched out by a trainer.

One new pickup: A receiver named Trent Guy out of Louisville. He wasn’t on the roster I had printed so I had to look him up later. Smallish type, possibly another return option though I didn’t see him get work there. Apparently, he’s a Charlotte kid.

Number reassignments: Sentimentality over Na’il Diggs didn’t last so long. Recent acquisition Jamar Williams got his old #53. Armanti Edwards has Ryne Robinson’s #10. Undrafted guard Noah Franklin is sporting Kris Jenkins’ old 77 (someone had that last year, but I forget who). Newly signed RB Daniel Porter gets Goings’ old #37. Still no 17, 45, 87 or 90.

Speaking of numbers, I heard someone say today that Jerry Richardson won’t allow any player to wear the number “1”. I vaguely remember hearing something like that before. Given that there’s never been a “1” on roster that I can recall, sounds like it’s probably true.

Other changes from last year: Everette Brown’s previously written about increase in size is indeed noticeable. I could swear Tony Fiammetta actually looks thinner. I remember thinking for a second that Hilee Taylor looked really different. Then I remembered Taylor had changed numbers and it was actually Eric Moore I was seeing.

First group on offensive drills: Moore at QB, Sutton at runningback, Smith and Jarrett at receiver. O-Line consisted, right to left, of Garry Williams, Travelle Wharton, Ryan Kalil, Geoff Schwartz and Rob Petitti. Interesting that they’re trying Schwartz at guard, and ahead of Bernadeau. Still, it’s just minicamp. Barnidge was also the first TE in, same as last year, but it didn’t mean anything.

Noted that more than a few times today, the offense practiced an end around to Smitty. Not a new play in the arsenal, mind you, but they seemed to like using it today.

Watching the Quarterbacks: Moore’s first pass of the day was completed to Steve Smith. The throw was just a hair behind, but Smith adjusted well. After that though, I can really only recall seeing one pass I thought was a little off. Overall, Moore looked pretty good. He was clearly in charge, even stopping one drill before it started because he saw the outside guys were lined up wrong. His play action fakes looked good. And when he passes, the football comes out of his hands fast, very fast. Scherer has clearly preached “quick release” to Moore a lot. I noticed it last year, and Moore hasn’t forgotten.

Cantwell ran the second offensive group and was the only QB I saw tossing passes back and forth when others were running drills. Moore spent his spare time helmet off, gabbing with coach Rip Scherer. Claussen was third, Pike fourth. Don’t know how long that rotation order will last. Gantt believes Cantwell has a better chance of sticking than most. He could be right, but with that said, you could probably get away with stashing a Hunter Cantwell on the practice squad. I’m not so sure that’s true of Tony Pike.

Speaking of Pike, it’s really weird to see a #16 out there quarterbacking again. Hope he has better luck than the last guy who wore it. He had an up and down day. Some good moments, some bad. One pass to new receiver Trent Guy was waaaaayyyy off target.

Claussen’s first pass of the day was a perfect throw…right to defensive back Marcus Walker. Could have been a clean pick but I’m not sure Walker saw it coming. The ball hit him right in the bread basket and he dropped it. Welcome to the NFL, young fella.

Does that mean Claussen looked bad? No. It’s been said that he has near-perfect mechanics as a passer, and watching him throw, you’d believe it. He had his fair share of completions, including a pretty nice one to Jeff King later on. Likewise, Pike had his moments. Both, however, were clearly having to adjust to the speed of the NFL. Claussen held the ball too long more than once, as did Pike (one time noticeably so). It’ll take reps to get better, but camp is still a ways away.

Barking out signals, Claussen actually sounded a little quiet at first. Someone likely mentioned it to him, as by the end of practice he was a lot louder and sounded more commanding. Good sign, as it points to his being receptive to suggestion and capable of adjustment. Pike was fairly even from start to finish. Cantwell sounded decent, but not as good as Moore.

Summing it all up: Of the quarterbacks today, Matt Moore easily looked the best. It wasn’t even a contest. Realistically speaking though, anyone who expected it to be one on the first day of minicamp probably wasn’t thinking it through. Moore may be a new starter, but this is his fourth NFL season. Claussen and Pike are rookies at their first minicamp, and when you watched them, they looked like rookies at their first minicamp. Neither Claussen nor Pike can rightly be judged solely by what they did today. Time will tell the tale.

Also on the rookie offense front, Armanti Edwards and Brandon LaFell worked in the third set of receivers (second was Kenny Moore and Charley Martin). Both guys looked decent. For all the talk about LaFell being not as fast as others, his game speed looks pretty good (even for just camp). He’s very long, lean and lanky. Saw him catch a pass from Hunter Cantwell on an outside route. Didn’t notice him as much after that, but my attention was spread around a lot.

As to Edwards, his dreads are so long that you can only make out “Ed” on the back of his jersey. Running routes, he’s fast, and seems to have taken up Steve Smith’s habit of always going full speed no matter what. Saw a few passes thrown his way, and watched him catching punts from Baker. For the record, I didn’t see a football that came his direction hit the ground. If he dropped anything, I missed it.

What to make of Dwayne Jarrett? Saw him make a good catch early in 7 on 7, then later on not even look back for the ball in a passing drill. Once or twice, I remember looking at him and wondering if he really wanted to be there. If he wants to start (or for that matter, stick on the roster) he’ll need to show something that, to this point, he’s not yet known for: that being consistent effort. Not sure I saw that today, but in fairness I didn’t make a special effort to watch him.

General offensive notes: More short passing than long today. Jeff King had a lot of catches and looked good. I saw him pull down passes from Moore, Cantwell and Claussen. He looks a little faster than before. Tyrell Sutton is very elusive when he runs. Mike Goodson less so, despite his reputation (sometimes I wonder how hard he’s trying). New rookie David Gettis also had some nice moves after catching a pass today. Undrafted guy Andrew George runs some nice routes, as he should wearing # 85.

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